Comments on: The New Age Sweat Lodge Death Controversy http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:26:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Wild Hunt » McCollum Speaks and other Pagan News of Note http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-9352 The Wild Hunt » McCollum Speaks and other Pagan News of Note Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:36:23 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-9352 [...] Arthur Ray Update: The New Age guru who led a “spiritual warrior” sweat lodge that ended up killing three people, and who is now in custody after being charged with three counts of manslaughter, claims that [...] [...] Arthur Ray Update: The New Age guru who led a “spiritual warrior” sweat lodge that ended up killing three people, and who is now in custody after being charged with three counts of manslaughter, claims that [...]

]]> By: The Wild Hunt » James Arthur Ray Arrested, Charged With Manslaughter http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-8942 The Wild Hunt » James Arthur Ray Arrested, Charged With Manslaughter Thu, 04 Feb 2010 08:25:53 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-8942 [...] New Age self-help guru James Arthur Ray, who led a “sweat lodge” ceremony that ended up killing three people, has been arrested and charged with three counts of [...] [...] New Age self-help guru James Arthur Ray, who led a “sweat lodge” ceremony that ended up killing three people, has been arrested and charged with three counts of [...]

]]> By: The Wild Hunt » Regulating Native Practices and other Pagan News of Note http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-8487 The Wild Hunt » Regulating Native Practices and other Pagan News of Note Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:41:36 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-8487 [...] Story: While the final fate of New Age guru James Arthur Ray, who led a “sweat lodge” ceremony that ended up killing three people, remains an open question, others are working to put Ray, and others like him, out of business. [...] [...] Story: While the final fate of New Age guru James Arthur Ray, who led a “sweat lodge” ceremony that ended up killing three people, remains an open question, others are working to put Ray, and others like him, out of business. [...]

]]> By: How to Manage Your Inner Critic | Happenchance http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-8219 How to Manage Your Inner Critic | Happenchance Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:23:52 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-8219 [...] (a.k.a. self-help) creeps me out. There’s a lot of bad advice out there. Sometimes people die. Others waste thousands of dollars on feel-good seminars, books, programs, [...] [...] (a.k.a. self-help) creeps me out. There’s a lot of bad advice out there. Sometimes people die. Others waste thousands of dollars on feel-good seminars, books, programs, [...]

]]> By: Danisidhe http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-7837 Danisidhe Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:53:21 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-7837 The fact that it is common is not an argument for its integrity. Money as an offering is both lazy on the part of the person (don't have to think about it or part with anything meaningful that they might have, perhaps purchased with the money) and greedy and cynical on the part of the church - whatever the religion. The only reason for a religious person or organization to ask for money is when it is needed to be put toward a specific purpose (and that cannot be assumed by simply giving it to a Christian organization, either) and it should NEVER be required to make the prayer or, worse (as in Japan) considered a replacement for genuine prayer. I live in Japan, down the road from the "rectory" of the local Shinto shrine - the priest drives a Bentley. This is not uncommon. The question stands. The fact that it is common is not an argument for its integrity.
Money as an offering is both lazy on the part of the person (don't have to think about it or part with anything meaningful that they might have, perhaps purchased with the money) and greedy and cynical on the part of the church – whatever the religion.

The only reason for a religious person or organization to ask for money is when it is needed to be put toward a specific purpose (and that cannot be assumed by simply giving it to a Christian organization, either) and it should NEVER be required to make the prayer or, worse (as in Japan) considered a replacement for genuine prayer. I live in Japan, down the road from the "rectory" of the local Shinto shrine – the priest drives a Bentley. This is not uncommon.

The question stands.

]]> By: Sweat lodges should enrich the soul, not the bank account | Civil Religion | STLtoday http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-6162 Sweat lodges should enrich the soul, not the bank account | Civil Religion | STLtoday Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:40:06 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-6162 [...] Gus diZerega and Jason Pitzl-Waters said in their blogs-Ray is what some in the Pagan community call a “Plastic shaman.” [...] [...] Gus diZerega and Jason Pitzl-Waters said in their blogs-Ray is what some in the Pagan community call a “Plastic shaman.” [...]

]]> By: 2 Deaths At James Arthur Ray Retreat Seminar Sedona Arizona » MindsetAndAttractionMarketing.com http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-6104 2 Deaths At James Arthur Ray Retreat Seminar Sedona Arizona » MindsetAndAttractionMarketing.com Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:04:24 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-6104 [...] Update: This article really lays it out: The New Age Sweat Lodge Death Controversy. [...] [...] Update: This article really lays it out: The New Age Sweat Lodge Death Controversy. [...]

]]> By: The Wild Hunt » A Few Quick Notes http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-6100 The Wild Hunt » A Few Quick Notes Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:55:15 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-6100 [...] a few items to start off your week, beginning with a rather tragic update on the James A. Ray sweat-lodge death controversy. Chas Clifton alerts us that a third victim has succumbed to injuries sustained while in the [...] [...] a few items to start off your week, beginning with a rather tragic update on the James A. Ray sweat-lodge death controversy. Chas Clifton alerts us that a third victim has succumbed to injuries sustained while in the [...]

]]> By: The Wild Hunt » (Pagan) News of Note http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-6088 The Wild Hunt » (Pagan) News of Note Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:10:53 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-6088 [...] we turn to another ongoing story, the death of two participants (and hospitalization of others) in a sweat-lodge ceremony lead by New Age “Secret” peddler James A. Ray. Commentary on the issue, as you can imagine, has been fast and (mostly) furious. New Agers and [...] [...] we turn to another ongoing story, the death of two participants (and hospitalization of others) in a sweat-lodge ceremony lead by New Age “Secret” peddler James A. Ray. Commentary on the issue, as you can imagine, has been fast and (mostly) furious. New Agers and [...]

]]> By: Jason Pitzl-Waters http://wildhunt.org/blog/2009/10/the-new-age-sweat-lodge-death-controversy.html/comment-page-1#comment-4749 Jason Pitzl-Waters Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:36:04 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/?p=3544#comment-4749 IntenseDebate is probably acting \"buggy\", I'll see what I can do. IntenseDebate is probably acting \”buggy\”, I'll see what I can do.

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