Comments on: Post-Election Pagan Poll Parsing http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:02:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Wild Hunt » Other Faiths and Religious Activists http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-4600 The Wild Hunt » Other Faiths and Religious Activists Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:16:15 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-4600 [...] even if they disagree on some issues, because the opposition is seen as uniquely hostile to them. Around 74% of modern Pagans voted for Obama in the last election, and I bet that Buddhists, Hindus, and Muslims had similarly lopsided polling numbers. “Among [...] [...] even if they disagree on some issues, because the opposition is seen as uniquely hostile to them. Around 74% of modern Pagans voted for Obama in the last election, and I bet that Buddhists, Hindus, and Muslims had similarly lopsided polling numbers. “Among [...]

]]> By: The Wild Hunt » Inauguration Day http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-2634 The Wild Hunt » Inauguration Day Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:38:21 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-2634 [...] America gets a new president. While a large number of modern Pagans voted for the man taking office, this blog does try to avoid taking partisan stances (like Obama, I don’t believe in a [...] [...] America gets a new president. While a large number of modern Pagans voted for the man taking office, this blog does try to avoid taking partisan stances (like Obama, I don’t believe in a [...]

]]> By: The Wild Hunt » Pagans (and Masons) at the Inauguration http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-2553 The Wild Hunt » Pagans (and Masons) at the Inauguration Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:37:21 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-2553 [...] are throwing their own bashes (with varying degrees of fabulousness).  Unsurprisingly, Pagans, who overwhelmingly supported Obama in the election, are getting in on the action. The day before the inauguration, a group of Pagans and [...] [...] are throwing their own bashes (with varying degrees of fabulousness).  Unsurprisingly, Pagans, who overwhelmingly supported Obama in the election, are getting in on the action. The day before the inauguration, a group of Pagans and [...]

]]> By: The Acid Queen http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-2307 The Acid Queen Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:54:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-2307 And this is why I tend to keep my politics to myself.<br/><br/>THE Michael, if your dictionary says that "Conservative" is defined as "worshipping The ONE True Christ", then I suggest you take urbanhellenistos' suggestion and switch to Webster's or the OED.<br/><br/>I'm a conservative from the days of Barry Goldwater--which, I assure you, is nowhere near the NeoCon end of the spectrum. And this is why I tend to keep my politics to myself.

THE Michael, if your dictionary says that “Conservative” is defined as “worshipping The ONE True Christ”, then I suggest you take urbanhellenistos’ suggestion and switch to Webster’s or the OED.

I’m a conservative from the days of Barry Goldwater–which, I assure you, is nowhere near the NeoCon end of the spectrum.

]]> By: Anonymous http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-2302 Anonymous Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:48:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-2302 Hey, THE Michael, If you equate "Pagan" with "Wiccan," then I understand why you are confused about how a Pagan can be Conservative. But there are many other branches of Paganism, some very ancient. For myself, being Asatru, I tend to be quite conservative, and most of the Asatruar I know are also conservative. It is a totally different world-view and totally different set of ethics than Wicca or Neo-Paganism. Yet it is still very much Pagan. I know several CR's who are also rather conservative, though not to the degree that most Asatruar are. So please, don't make the mistake of thinking that all Pagan religions share the same values or the same world view that Wicca does. Hey, THE Michael, If you equate “Pagan” with “Wiccan,” then I understand why you are confused about how a Pagan can be Conservative. But there are many other branches of Paganism, some very ancient. For myself, being Asatru, I tend to be quite conservative, and most of the Asatruar I know are also conservative. It is a totally different world-view and totally different set of ethics than Wicca or Neo-Paganism. Yet it is still very much Pagan. I know several CR’s who are also rather conservative, though not to the degree that most Asatruar are. So please, don’t make the mistake of thinking that all Pagan religions share the same values or the same world view that Wicca does.

]]> By: urbanhellenistos http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-2297 urbanhellenistos Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:03:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-2297 RE: THE michael<br/>Conservatism comes in many shades and stripes. If your dictionary really does define "conservative" as "believer in the One Trust Christ", then I suggest switching either to Webster's or Oxford. (and just for the record, I'm so Liberal it makes your teeth hurt.)<br/><br/>The biggest mistake that the Republican party ever made was appointing Reagan as their 1980 candidate to appeal to Evangelical Christians and paint Jimmy Carter as an "out of touch Intellectual", before that, the primary goals of the Republican party were fiscal conservatism and states' rights. I have no real issue with old-style Republicans, I just disagree with their political views. Hell, Bill Clinton was this country's greatest Republican president since Eisenhower.<br/><br/><br/>RE: Lore<br/>I hear ya'. Comparitively speaking, Kucinich is considered the candidate for the "Looney Left" in the $tates, but his political views make him a dead moderate in European standards. RE: THE michael
Conservatism comes in many shades and stripes. If your dictionary really does define “conservative” as “believer in the One Trust Christ”, then I suggest switching either to Webster’s or Oxford. (and just for the record, I’m so Liberal it makes your teeth hurt.)

The biggest mistake that the Republican party ever made was appointing Reagan as their 1980 candidate to appeal to Evangelical Christians and paint Jimmy Carter as an “out of touch Intellectual”, before that, the primary goals of the Republican party were fiscal conservatism and states’ rights. I have no real issue with old-style Republicans, I just disagree with their political views. Hell, Bill Clinton was this country’s greatest Republican president since Eisenhower.

RE: Lore
I hear ya’. Comparitively speaking, Kucinich is considered the candidate for the “Looney Left” in the $tates, but his political views make him a dead moderate in European standards.

]]> By: Anonymous http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-2296 Anonymous Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:40:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-2296 I used to be a conservative when conservative meant not being trigger happy and spending recklessly. The current Republican party is not conservative. They are a party of corporation boot polishers who allow horrible abuse to our planet in the name of greed. The Republican party that I used to support seems to have been taken over by the extremist Christian right and has driven me to become a Libertarian Anarchist. I used to be a conservative when conservative meant not being trigger happy and spending recklessly. The current Republican party is not conservative. They are a party of corporation boot polishers who allow horrible abuse to our planet in the name of greed. The Republican party that I used to support seems to have been taken over by the extremist Christian right and has driven me to become a Libertarian Anarchist.

]]> By: Carol Maltby http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-2295 Carol Maltby Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:12:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-2295 Might that 2% difference over the Kerry votes be within the margin of error? Might that 2% difference over the Kerry votes be within the margin of error?

]]> By: And Little Fishes http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-2294 And Little Fishes Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:55:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-2294 I'm guessing that Obama, regardless of the fact that the religious left fringes supported him in great measure, myself included, will be moderate on religion. Not what I would wish for in a perfect world, but worlds better than what we've had. <br/>The back-and-forth here about Conservative (gasp) Pagans is a good reminder. Yes, we are statistically very progressive, but that's only statistics. And part of being progressive, in my opinion, is being respectful of differences. I’m guessing that Obama, regardless of the fact that the religious left fringes supported him in great measure, myself included, will be moderate on religion. Not what I would wish for in a perfect world, but worlds better than what we’ve had.
The back-and-forth here about Conservative (gasp) Pagans is a good reminder. Yes, we are statistically very progressive, but that’s only statistics. And part of being progressive, in my opinion, is being respectful of differences.

]]> By: Lore http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html/comment-page-1#comment-2293 Lore Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:14:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/post-election-pagan-poll-parsing.html#comment-2293 Conservative views don't have anything to do with religion per se. It's more to do with your views on government spending, social programs, immigraton, so on and so forth. Christianity hi-jacked the Republican party.<br/><br/>Surprisingly, most people who self-identify Liberal or Conservative actually fall closer to Moderate in their views. I myself am a left-leaning moderate with occasional right tendencies (I support the entire constitution, for example, including the fifth amendment). :) Conservative views don’t have anything to do with religion per se. It’s more to do with your views on government spending, social programs, immigraton, so on and so forth. Christianity hi-jacked the Republican party.

Surprisingly, most people who self-identify Liberal or Conservative actually fall closer to Moderate in their views. I myself am a left-leaning moderate with occasional right tendencies (I support the entire constitution, for example, including the fifth amendment). :)

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