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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I eagerly await that day! </description>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/06/pagan-woman-kicked-out-of-christian.html/comment-page-1#comment-4565</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a women only shelter.  No men stayed there. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a women only shelter.  No men stayed there.</p>
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		<title>By: thee captain</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/06/pagan-woman-kicked-out-of-christian.html/comment-page-1#comment-5389</link>
		<dc:creator>thee captain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THAT IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY, AND NO LAW THAT PROTECTS IT IS ANY GOOD NOR IS IT WORTH FOLLOWING. 
 
REVOLT!!!!!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THAT IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY, AND NO LAW THAT PROTECTS IT IS ANY GOOD NOR IS IT WORTH FOLLOWING. </p>
<p>REVOLT!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Peaches</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/06/pagan-woman-kicked-out-of-christian.html/comment-page-1#comment-1935</link>
		<dc:creator>Peaches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee,&lt;br/&gt;THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK TO OKLAHOMA. I am a TRUE friend I got BOTH of them out of a abusive relationship. I got to a safe place. If I had to do it again I WOULD in a heartbeat.&lt;br/&gt;Peaches</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,<br />THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK TO OKLAHOMA. I am a TRUE friend I got BOTH of them out of a abusive relationship. I got to a safe place. If I had to do it again I WOULD in a heartbeat.<br />Peaches</p>
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		<title>By: ~*Lee*~</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/06/pagan-woman-kicked-out-of-christian.html/comment-page-1#comment-1932</link>
		<dc:creator>~*Lee*~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peaches,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I WILL NOT LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;UNLIKE YOU I AM A TRUE FRIEND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HELP HER RUN FROM A PROBLEM MAYBE YOU SHOULD&#039;VE JUST HELPED HER GET THROUGH IT!!!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I AM NOT OUT TO GET RAVEN NO ONE IS NOT EVEN SQUEAKS IS, BUT RAVEN LIED ABOUT THINGS THAT SHE NEEDS TO COME CLEAN ABOUT AND FACE THE FACTS RUNNING AWAY ISN&#039;T GOING TO FIX ANYTHING!!!! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A TRUE FRIEND WOULD LOOK FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF GOOBER!!!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Raven you need to come home and get all this resolved and let Gab see his Father it is the right thing to do.  When he was with his Dad his dad never told you that you couldn&#039;t see him.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You need to come home and stay with a real friend that will protect you, but not let you keep making the wrong choices.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am not on a side in the except Goob&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peaches,</p>
<p>I WILL NOT LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!</p>
<p>UNLIKE YOU I AM A TRUE FRIEND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HELP HER RUN FROM A PROBLEM MAYBE YOU SHOULD&#8217;VE JUST HELPED HER GET THROUGH IT!!!!</p>
<p>I AM NOT OUT TO GET RAVEN NO ONE IS NOT EVEN SQUEAKS IS, BUT RAVEN LIED ABOUT THINGS THAT SHE NEEDS TO COME CLEAN ABOUT AND FACE THE FACTS RUNNING AWAY ISN&#8217;T GOING TO FIX ANYTHING!!!! </p>
<p>A TRUE FRIEND WOULD LOOK FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF GOOBER!!!!</p>
<p>Raven you need to come home and get all this resolved and let Gab see his Father it is the right thing to do.  When he was with his Dad his dad never told you that you couldn&#8217;t see him.</p>
<p>You need to come home and stay with a real friend that will protect you, but not let you keep making the wrong choices.</p>
<p>I am not on a side in the except Goob&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Peaches</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/06/pagan-woman-kicked-out-of-christian.html/comment-page-1#comment-1931</link>
		<dc:creator>Peaches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee,&lt;br/&gt;Im not going to stay out of this. Raven is my friend and Im going to protect her NO MATTER WHAT!!!! I know where they are an they are safe, leave them ALONE.&lt;br/&gt;Peaches</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,<br />Im not going to stay out of this. Raven is my friend and Im going to protect her NO MATTER WHAT!!!! I know where they are an they are safe, leave them ALONE.<br />Peaches</p>
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		<title>By: ~*Lee*~</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/06/pagan-woman-kicked-out-of-christian.html/comment-page-1#comment-1930</link>
		<dc:creator>~*Lee*~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peaches,&lt;br/&gt; No offence, but you need stay out of this.  You did your part and honestly unless Rave is w/ you I don&#039;t care what you have to say!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Raven you need to come home!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peaches,<br /> No offence, but you need stay out of this.  You did your part and honestly unless Rave is w/ you I don&#8217;t care what you have to say!</p>
<p>Raven you need to come home!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Peaches</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peaches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee,&lt;br/&gt;I know where Raven and her son are at. They are safe an NOT on the streets. They are NOT coming back to Oklahoma.&lt;br/&gt;Peaches</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,<br />I know where Raven and her son are at. They are safe an NOT on the streets. They are NOT coming back to Oklahoma.<br />Peaches</p>
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		<title>By: ~*Lee*~</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/06/pagan-woman-kicked-out-of-christian.html/comment-page-1#comment-1927</link>
		<dc:creator>~*Lee*~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know entirely the WHOLE thing, but I was around for most of it...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To Raven, WTF where you thinking just taking off w/ Goober like that?? Knowing you had NO place to go and risking the chance that not just you, but him as well would have to sleep on streets he is 7-months old and it doesn&#039;t matter where you are it is HOT as hell in most states to hot for that baby to not have an ACed place to be. How are you feeding him, clothing him, Rave how are you even taking care of him right now??&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To everyone that has been reading this... Raven DID leave her husband to come to Oklahoma she got a job where I was working and met one of my friends and decided to get in a relationship with them, she spread some rumors about another friend out of jealousy and almost cost her everything INCLUDING her son. Therefor the boy dumped her shortly after is when she took off.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I will be honest though I have been going through a ruff time of my own and been outta town staying with friends so I wasn&#039;t ALWAYS around, but I did make it point to atlest visit everyone.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I got to know the husband being accused and I will tell you he would never hurt anyone. How do I know because I have seen him in situations that I myself would&#039;ve gone off the handle and hurt someone as to where he did nothing to harm anyone all he wanted to do was talk it out and work things out.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have heard Raven say she wished she didnt have her son because she thought she wasn&#039;t a good mother , BUT I also talked to her later on and she admitted that she was scared and that she wanted to be a good mom she was just scared she wouldn&#039;t be and I told her she has to trust herself and have faith in herself and that I would help her with whatever she needed help with if I could.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I myself am not a mother, but I am a aunt to three beutiful little girls and so you learn things about kids.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Peaches, I don&#039;t know who you think you are and I am sure even though I use to work with you I don&#039;t know you... What you did was WRONG you helped take a baby out of a home where he was loved and cared for.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How do I know I was around I use to come over and hang out at the house and spend time with him.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There wasn&#039;t any abuse I know that now, but I was someone who at first beleived the things that was said about the accused, but I took the time to get to know him and to pay attenchen to detail and realize that it wasn&#039;t true.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here is the messed up thing Rave I never told you that I knew you where lying about so many things because I do care for you and I do care about our friendship and I was affraid that you would end out friendship.  You are not a bad person as some people think you are I think you are just confussed and scared and you feel like you are all alone and why you took me off your myspace I don&#039;t know either if it is because I am still friends w/ squeaks and others that hurts me a lot.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To squeaks you know I love you as a friend too and as a sister like I do Rave as well, but right now the most important thing is getting rave back to oklahoma and getting the baby to a save place and letting his father see him.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;All that has ever come out of this whole mess is fighting not physical either mental and words and now it has cost a loving father his child. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This father never wanted the marriage to end as far as I know. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But all of that doesnt matter now what matter RIGHT NOW is the safety of RAVE and Goober.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So everyone STOP THE FIGHTING AND BULL I AM NOT TAKING SIDES I NEVER HAVE AND I NEVER WILL!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It may seem like I am taking sides when I am not I am just tryin to clear the names that have been slandered, by all this fighting.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As said befor though the ONLY thing that matters right now is the safty of MY FRIEND RAVE AND HER CHILD.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Raven I love you and I don&#039;t know what is going on w/ you right now, but you need to contact me somehow and let me know you are okay and that goob is okay.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;STOP THE FIGHTING!!!! THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT HERE!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know entirely the WHOLE thing, but I was around for most of it&#8230;</p>
<p>To Raven, WTF where you thinking just taking off w/ Goober like that?? Knowing you had NO place to go and risking the chance that not just you, but him as well would have to sleep on streets he is 7-months old and it doesn&#8217;t matter where you are it is HOT as hell in most states to hot for that baby to not have an ACed place to be. How are you feeding him, clothing him, Rave how are you even taking care of him right now??</p>
<p>To everyone that has been reading this&#8230; Raven DID leave her husband to come to Oklahoma she got a job where I was working and met one of my friends and decided to get in a relationship with them, she spread some rumors about another friend out of jealousy and almost cost her everything INCLUDING her son. Therefor the boy dumped her shortly after is when she took off.</p>
<p>I will be honest though I have been going through a ruff time of my own and been outta town staying with friends so I wasn&#8217;t ALWAYS around, but I did make it point to atlest visit everyone.</p>
<p>I got to know the husband being accused and I will tell you he would never hurt anyone. How do I know because I have seen him in situations that I myself would&#8217;ve gone off the handle and hurt someone as to where he did nothing to harm anyone all he wanted to do was talk it out and work things out.</p>
<p>I have heard Raven say she wished she didnt have her son because she thought she wasn&#8217;t a good mother , BUT I also talked to her later on and she admitted that she was scared and that she wanted to be a good mom she was just scared she wouldn&#8217;t be and I told her she has to trust herself and have faith in herself and that I would help her with whatever she needed help with if I could.</p>
<p>I myself am not a mother, but I am a aunt to three beutiful little girls and so you learn things about kids.</p>
<p>Peaches, I don&#8217;t know who you think you are and I am sure even though I use to work with you I don&#8217;t know you&#8230; What you did was WRONG you helped take a baby out of a home where he was loved and cared for.  </p>
<p>How do I know I was around I use to come over and hang out at the house and spend time with him.</p>
<p>There wasn&#8217;t any abuse I know that now, but I was someone who at first beleived the things that was said about the accused, but I took the time to get to know him and to pay attenchen to detail and realize that it wasn&#8217;t true.</p>
<p>Here is the messed up thing Rave I never told you that I knew you where lying about so many things because I do care for you and I do care about our friendship and I was affraid that you would end out friendship.  You are not a bad person as some people think you are I think you are just confussed and scared and you feel like you are all alone and why you took me off your myspace I don&#8217;t know either if it is because I am still friends w/ squeaks and others that hurts me a lot.</p>
<p>To squeaks you know I love you as a friend too and as a sister like I do Rave as well, but right now the most important thing is getting rave back to oklahoma and getting the baby to a save place and letting his father see him.  </p>
<p>All that has ever come out of this whole mess is fighting not physical either mental and words and now it has cost a loving father his child. </p>
<p>This father never wanted the marriage to end as far as I know. </p>
<p>But all of that doesnt matter now what matter RIGHT NOW is the safety of RAVE and Goober.</p>
<p>So everyone STOP THE FIGHTING AND BULL I AM NOT TAKING SIDES I NEVER HAVE AND I NEVER WILL!</p>
<p>It may seem like I am taking sides when I am not I am just tryin to clear the names that have been slandered, by all this fighting.</p>
<p>As said befor though the ONLY thing that matters right now is the safty of MY FRIEND RAVE AND HER CHILD.</p>
<p>Raven I love you and I don&#8217;t know what is going on w/ you right now, but you need to contact me somehow and let me know you are okay and that goob is okay.</p>
<p>STOP THE FIGHTING!!!! THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT HERE!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was not asked to give up her religion.  This is no different than a Christian student being told they cannot pray over the PA system at a public school.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A Christian center should not be forced to allow persons in who are there to promote rhetoric about something other than Christianity.  Try preaching that homosexuality is wrong at a gay center and see what happens.  I don&#039;t think they will be loving or tolerant about it either.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Christians who are homeless should have the right to go to shelters which espouse and encourage their values and will protect them from other influences.  I do hope that Wiccan/Pagan groups will step up to the plate and offer services.  Atheists and agnostics too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have a hard enough time being able to find a shelter which does not discriminate against me based on gender.  I am a transsexual, and I have been homeless.  I tried to get into a women&#039;s shelter, and they said that the information on my ID didn&#039;t match who I was and they could not let me in.  Then I went to the men&#039;s, and they told me to go back to the ladies.  So, once like that I had to sleep on the streets.  Two other times, I was forced to stay with the men, despite that being very degrading to me.  They could not understand I am a woman with a birth defect, and the first night, I had to listen to men sitting up all night talking about wanting to kill f***ots.  I am not one of those, so I was not offended by their obvious immaturity, but I was afraid they might be mistaking me for one of the people they hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was not asked to give up her religion.  This is no different than a Christian student being told they cannot pray over the PA system at a public school.</p>
<p>A Christian center should not be forced to allow persons in who are there to promote rhetoric about something other than Christianity.  Try preaching that homosexuality is wrong at a gay center and see what happens.  I don&#8217;t think they will be loving or tolerant about it either.</p>
<p>Christians who are homeless should have the right to go to shelters which espouse and encourage their values and will protect them from other influences.  I do hope that Wiccan/Pagan groups will step up to the plate and offer services.  Atheists and agnostics too.</p>
<p>I have a hard enough time being able to find a shelter which does not discriminate against me based on gender.  I am a transsexual, and I have been homeless.  I tried to get into a women&#8217;s shelter, and they said that the information on my ID didn&#8217;t match who I was and they could not let me in.  Then I went to the men&#8217;s, and they told me to go back to the ladies.  So, once like that I had to sleep on the streets.  Two other times, I was forced to stay with the men, despite that being very degrading to me.  They could not understand I am a woman with a birth defect, and the first night, I had to listen to men sitting up all night talking about wanting to kill f***ots.  I am not one of those, so I was not offended by their obvious immaturity, but I was afraid they might be mistaking me for one of the people they hate.</p>
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