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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/05/sex-and-revolution.html/comment-page-1#comment-1741</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the father of the teenage daughter, and the keeper of the garage which had the &quot;velvet vagina&quot; aka the &quot;Giant Yoni&quot;, I would like to add a little more context to this blog post discussion. The Giant Yoni is a beautiful fabric art ritual creation which has cradled many small children and anchored the south alter at the Reclaiming spiral dance in San Francisco for several years. It also has made other ritual appearances as guided by its beloved creatrix, a midwife and centrally grounding member of the Bay Area Reclaiming community.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Giant Yoni was resting in my garage on the way to another midwifes home office alter to await more ritual appearances. I found it a wonderful conversation starter with my daughter and especially delighted with her showing it to her friends. I explained that it represents the sacred power of the feminine in all its aspects and that she was free to touch, but was to big to get inside. I saw the energy flow through her as she slipped her hand into the opening.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wondered where the companion pillow had wandered off to? Though it had always seemed a little small to me, I appreciated the balance and wholeness this masculine representation represented, although as far as I know it does not have a name. Then I remembered, the member is a favorite snuggle toy of the creatrixes granddaughter, and as it doesn&#039;t have an eight foot internal frame of rebar, takes up a lot less space. I breathed relief as a understood that it was only a matter of time before these two ritual softies were reunited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the father of the teenage daughter, and the keeper of the garage which had the &#8220;velvet vagina&#8221; aka the &#8220;Giant Yoni&#8221;, I would like to add a little more context to this blog post discussion. The Giant Yoni is a beautiful fabric art ritual creation which has cradled many small children and anchored the south alter at the Reclaiming spiral dance in San Francisco for several years. It also has made other ritual appearances as guided by its beloved creatrix, a midwife and centrally grounding member of the Bay Area Reclaiming community.</p>
<p>The Giant Yoni was resting in my garage on the way to another midwifes home office alter to await more ritual appearances. I found it a wonderful conversation starter with my daughter and especially delighted with her showing it to her friends. I explained that it represents the sacred power of the feminine in all its aspects and that she was free to touch, but was to big to get inside. I saw the energy flow through her as she slipped her hand into the opening.</p>
<p>I wondered where the companion pillow had wandered off to? Though it had always seemed a little small to me, I appreciated the balance and wholeness this masculine representation represented, although as far as I know it does not have a name. Then I remembered, the member is a favorite snuggle toy of the creatrixes granddaughter, and as it doesn&#8217;t have an eight foot internal frame of rebar, takes up a lot less space. I breathed relief as a understood that it was only a matter of time before these two ritual softies were reunited.</p>
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		<title>By: scarlett</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/05/sex-and-revolution.html/comment-page-1#comment-1733</link>
		<dc:creator>scarlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see what the problem with the &quot;velvet vagina&quot; is. You said that any criticism of it would brand you as not being sex positive. What was there for you to criticise? Just about everything their parents do is an embarrassment to most teens so that doesn&#039;t cut it. I can&#039;t think why you would object to this item that was being kept in the garage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what the problem with the &#8220;velvet vagina&#8221; is. You said that any criticism of it would brand you as not being sex positive. What was there for you to criticise? Just about everything their parents do is an embarrassment to most teens so that doesn&#8217;t cut it. I can&#8217;t think why you would object to this item that was being kept in the garage.</p>
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		<title>By: deborah oak</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/05/sex-and-revolution.html/comment-page-1#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>deborah oak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post,Anne!! An awareness that I have found sadly lacking among some of those who call themselves sex positive, is that there is no awareness that for every person who is learning to say yes, another is learning to say no. In early Reclaiming sex workshops, this was especially true. For me, being sex positive means being authentic about sex and respecting all our choices. Why is having one partner less sex positive than having three?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My experience too is that it&#039;s part of most teenager&#039;s experience and development to be embarrassed by us. For my own, I figure it&#039;s tough enough having a witch/queer/anarchist mom. Compounding this with large velvet vaginas I know push&#039;s it over the edge. Better to have some good books  on sex casually tucked in the bookcase. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But then, I still cringe at how we feminists went whole hog with our cunt coloring books and speculum circles.  I&#039;ve seen enough cervix&#039;s to last a lifetime, let alone big &#039;ole yoni representations in every fabric, color, and size imaginable.&lt;br/&gt;I still like The Dinner Party by judy chicago though! contradictions are the spice of life!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post,Anne!! An awareness that I have found sadly lacking among some of those who call themselves sex positive, is that there is no awareness that for every person who is learning to say yes, another is learning to say no. In early Reclaiming sex workshops, this was especially true. For me, being sex positive means being authentic about sex and respecting all our choices. Why is having one partner less sex positive than having three?</p>
<p>My experience too is that it&#8217;s part of most teenager&#8217;s experience and development to be embarrassed by us. For my own, I figure it&#8217;s tough enough having a witch/queer/anarchist mom. Compounding this with large velvet vaginas I know push&#8217;s it over the edge. Better to have some good books  on sex casually tucked in the bookcase. </p>
<p>But then, I still cringe at how we feminists went whole hog with our cunt coloring books and speculum circles.  I&#8217;ve seen enough cervix&#8217;s to last a lifetime, let alone big &#8216;ole yoni representations in every fabric, color, and size imaginable.<br />I still like The Dinner Party by judy chicago though! contradictions are the spice of life!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacqueline</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/05/sex-and-revolution.html/comment-page-1#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacqueline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 09:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gods, so many typos, I am posting when I should be sleeping - I mean &quot;harmless self expression&quot;, not harmful.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gods, so many typos, I am posting when I should be sleeping &#8211; I mean &#8220;harmless self expression&#8221;, not harmful.  <img src='http://wildhunt.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jacqueline</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/05/sex-and-revolution.html/comment-page-1#comment-1718</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacqueline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 09:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A mix of what Turtlemoon and Hecate said sums up my reaction to the velvet vagina - if it was the poor execution that horrified, I can empathize, but I am much more horrified by the violence in movies we show our children and the using of the female body as an over-sexualized object to see crap.  Sometimes, for some folks, it may take creating an 8-foot velvet vagina to work toward reclaiming our female bodies as sacred and its their damned garage, they should be free from being judged there, at least.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have a hard time getting past how immediately judgemental and poo-pooing this sounded of someone else&#039;s expression that you knew nothing about the spirit behind - and kids are embarrassed by anything that acknowledges sex in front of both them and their parents, period, and that&#039;s not because its gross or wrong to do so, its because society teaches us   this should be embarrassing and that thinking about your sexual organs is embarrassing.  To me, that&#039;s a problem, much more so than a statue of a vagina.  Heck, lets see more vagina statues and less use of the female body as an object for judging, scorning, or financial gain!  I am not some &quot;out there&quot; feminist, whatever that means, just someone more skeptical of those who are embarrassed by a harmful self-expression of reverence for the female body that might have been executed poorly in one&#039;s opinion than dismayed by the messages young people received everyday about the value of the female body.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I admire you for writing this post on a tough topic and grappling with it.  I just don&#039;t think we come down on the same side of it.  People who manipulate faith to get sex or break boundaries exist in every faith path - its a human problem, not a Pagan one.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And to respond to someone earlier, sexual repression does hurt more than just the individual, it is spread through mass cultural venues like churches where many are hurt, it passes on to all the children in your life, it gets all over everyone and it does stunt a part of a person that effects the health and well being of almost every other part of who we are, for the majority of us.  That damage has been downplayed so long, it might be why many pagans would rather error on the side of sexual abandon  and freedom to the point of excess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A mix of what Turtlemoon and Hecate said sums up my reaction to the velvet vagina &#8211; if it was the poor execution that horrified, I can empathize, but I am much more horrified by the violence in movies we show our children and the using of the female body as an over-sexualized object to see crap.  Sometimes, for some folks, it may take creating an 8-foot velvet vagina to work toward reclaiming our female bodies as sacred and its their damned garage, they should be free from being judged there, at least.</p>
<p>I have a hard time getting past how immediately judgemental and poo-pooing this sounded of someone else&#8217;s expression that you knew nothing about the spirit behind &#8211; and kids are embarrassed by anything that acknowledges sex in front of both them and their parents, period, and that&#8217;s not because its gross or wrong to do so, its because society teaches us   this should be embarrassing and that thinking about your sexual organs is embarrassing.  To me, that&#8217;s a problem, much more so than a statue of a vagina.  Heck, lets see more vagina statues and less use of the female body as an object for judging, scorning, or financial gain!  I am not some &#8220;out there&#8221; feminist, whatever that means, just someone more skeptical of those who are embarrassed by a harmful self-expression of reverence for the female body that might have been executed poorly in one&#8217;s opinion than dismayed by the messages young people received everyday about the value of the female body.  </p>
<p>I admire you for writing this post on a tough topic and grappling with it.  I just don&#8217;t think we come down on the same side of it.  People who manipulate faith to get sex or break boundaries exist in every faith path &#8211; its a human problem, not a Pagan one.  </p>
<p>And to respond to someone earlier, sexual repression does hurt more than just the individual, it is spread through mass cultural venues like churches where many are hurt, it passes on to all the children in your life, it gets all over everyone and it does stunt a part of a person that effects the health and well being of almost every other part of who we are, for the majority of us.  That damage has been downplayed so long, it might be why many pagans would rather error on the side of sexual abandon  and freedom to the point of excess.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Maltby</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/05/sex-and-revolution.html/comment-page-1#comment-1717</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Maltby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any inkling that your parents (or someone else&#039;s) has or ever had a sex life is profoundly embarassing to most teenagers. My own daughters have been known to scream in horror if I should so much as mention that I made out with my high school boyfriend 40 years ago.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Like any religion, we have some people who do not respect boundaries. Our thealogies can further contribute to that. I&#039;ve seen issues come up recently in the Pagan community that show that many are completely clueless of the dynamics of sexual abuse, and that we&#039;ve got a long way to go to educate on the subject.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It would be great if an 8 foot tall vulva made of crushed velvet and feather boas was the worst thing we had to grapple with. I wish you&#039;d taken the first step and asked the parents what it was all about, instead of just imagining what you think they might have said to you if you asked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any inkling that your parents (or someone else&#8217;s) has or ever had a sex life is profoundly embarassing to most teenagers. My own daughters have been known to scream in horror if I should so much as mention that I made out with my high school boyfriend 40 years ago.</p>
<p>Like any religion, we have some people who do not respect boundaries. Our thealogies can further contribute to that. I&#8217;ve seen issues come up recently in the Pagan community that show that many are completely clueless of the dynamics of sexual abuse, and that we&#8217;ve got a long way to go to educate on the subject.</p>
<p>It would be great if an 8 foot tall vulva made of crushed velvet and feather boas was the worst thing we had to grapple with. I wish you&#8217;d taken the first step and asked the parents what it was all about, instead of just imagining what you think they might have said to you if you asked.</p>
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		<title>By: Hecate</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/05/sex-and-revolution.html/comment-page-1#comment-1716</link>
		<dc:creator>Hecate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, just imagine what that implies.  A culture where a vagina is embarassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, just imagine what that implies.  A culture where a vagina is embarassing.</p>
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		<title>By: Hecate</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/05/sex-and-revolution.html/comment-page-1#comment-1715</link>
		<dc:creator>Hecate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the velvet vagina.  So, sue me.  The problem isn&#039;t the velvet vagina, it&#039;s the culture that makes teenagers (and you) embarrassed by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the velvet vagina.  So, sue me.  The problem isn&#8217;t the velvet vagina, it&#8217;s the culture that makes teenagers (and you) embarrassed by it.</p>
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		<title>By: HR Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/05/sex-and-revolution.html/comment-page-1#comment-1714</link>
		<dc:creator>HR Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that certainly clears it up, doesn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that certainly clears it up, doesn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: turtlemoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>turtlemoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Growing up in Catholicism in South Dakota, and now being a pagan in Colorado, I see a need to stir the cauldron of sexuality, spirituality and ethics.  And, being a teacher, I think sexuality classes, call them sacred or healing or whatever, is one of the best services to offer the community.  I don&#039;t go for sexual behavior in the class, but exploring boundaries and feelings and history is one of the most constructive experiences of my life.  I think sex ed DVDs, and there are many excellent ones out there, is much more constructive than actual sex in the class.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I read Cora&#039;s description of sexual energy being the same as spirit energy, and that removing sexual blocks advances spiritual development, I was so excited.  Finally someone wrote what I had known since I was 10.  I never found that in the Catholic catechism.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would much rather have a velvet vagina on the altar or in the ritual space than a model slinging her boobs to sell whiskey or cars or stock options.  Give me that statue of a satyr with an erect phallus, celebrating our lust for its own sake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up in Catholicism in South Dakota, and now being a pagan in Colorado, I see a need to stir the cauldron of sexuality, spirituality and ethics.  And, being a teacher, I think sexuality classes, call them sacred or healing or whatever, is one of the best services to offer the community.  I don&#8217;t go for sexual behavior in the class, but exploring boundaries and feelings and history is one of the most constructive experiences of my life.  I think sex ed DVDs, and there are many excellent ones out there, is much more constructive than actual sex in the class.</p>
<p>When I read Cora&#8217;s description of sexual energy being the same as spirit energy, and that removing sexual blocks advances spiritual development, I was so excited.  Finally someone wrote what I had known since I was 10.  I never found that in the Catholic catechism.</p>
<p>I would much rather have a velvet vagina on the altar or in the ritual space than a model slinging her boobs to sell whiskey or cars or stock options.  Give me that statue of a satyr with an erect phallus, celebrating our lust for its own sake!</p>
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