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		<title>By: The Wild Hunt &#187; Update: The Theological Necessity of Goats</title>
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		<description>[...] who lost his initial challenge to the law, was backed in his appeal by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty.  In a press [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Wild Hunt &#187; Update: The Theological Necessity of Goats</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Wild Hunt &#187; Update: The Theological Necessity of Goats</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Circuit Court of Appeals. Merced, backed by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, is appealing an earlier ruling that the ban against Merced sacrificing goats is legal due to public health issues (even though [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Wild Hunt &#187; Update: The Theological Necessity of Goats</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Wild Hunt &#187; Update: The Theological Necessity of Goats</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Circuit Court of Appeals. Merced, backed by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, is appealing an earlier ruling that the ban against Merced sacrificing goats is legal due to public health issues (even though [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/03/updates-on-recent-stories.html/comment-page-1#comment-1553</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Context certainly is important but, even if the police did ask them to stop using the megaphone earlier and even if they did initially agree to do so, that does not change the fact that the police were demanding that they do something that was outside the letter of Salem`s municipal bylaws, hence the dropped charge. . . Quite frankly I think that a compact digital camera with video capability, to say nothing of an additional digital voice recorder, should be an essential part of police equipment these days. The police could have and should have videoed their interactions with Marcavage and Repent America. It`s not like they did not have any past experience with them. But let`s face it, it`s not like police are above lying to support dubious charges brought against suspects. . . The judge`s decision seems to be based on Repent America`s video footage in any case and that judgment is not supported by that video footage AFAIAC. Marcavage seems to be quite calm and is comparitively passively protecting his megaphone from what he has good reason to believe is an illegal seizure by the Salem police officers. What the judge calls passive-aggressiveness on Marcavage`s part is what others would call classic passive-resistance to questionable police intervention. The only &quot;aggressive tactics&quot; seen in that video footage are those of the Salem police officers who clearly forced Marcavage to the ground. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Context certainly is important but, even if the police did ask them to stop using the megaphone earlier and even if they did initially agree to do so, that does not change the fact that the police were demanding that they do something that was outside the letter of Salem`s municipal bylaws, hence the dropped charge. . . Quite frankly I think that a compact digital camera with video capability, to say nothing of an additional digital voice recorder, should be an essential part of police equipment these days. The police could have and should have videoed their interactions with Marcavage and Repent America. It`s not like they did not have any past experience with them. But let`s face it, it`s not like police are above lying to support dubious charges brought against suspects. . . The judge`s decision seems to be based on Repent America`s video footage in any case and that judgment is not supported by that video footage AFAIAC. Marcavage seems to be quite calm and is comparitively passively protecting his megaphone from what he has good reason to believe is an illegal seizure by the Salem police officers. What the judge calls passive-aggressiveness on Marcavage`s part is what others would call classic passive-resistance to questionable police intervention. The only &#8220;aggressive tactics&#8221; seen in that video footage are those of the Salem police officers who clearly forced Marcavage to the ground. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Pitzl-Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Pitzl-Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems to me that the situation only became &quot;disorderly&quot;, to say nothing of a &quot;fiasco&quot;. . . when Lt. Lemelin and Patrolmen Ryan Davis and Brian Butler physically struggled with Marcavage over his bullhorn and these three Salem police officers then wrestled him to the ground...&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If only we could see Repent America&#039;s video footage for the couple hours leading up to the five minutes of the arrest. A shame they didn&#039;t feel that footage was important enough to share. Then we could have confirmation of the police approaching them earlier and asking them to stop using the megaphone early (which they reportedly agreed to do), we could also have confirmation of members of Repent America using the bullhorn in &quot;aggressive tactics&quot; including using it in someone&#039;s face (sounds like &quot;disorderly conduct&quot; to me). &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Instead, we get the five minutes. Context certainly is king, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems to me that the situation only became &#8220;disorderly&#8221;, to say nothing of a &#8220;fiasco&#8221;. . . when Lt. Lemelin and Patrolmen Ryan Davis and Brian Butler physically struggled with Marcavage over his bullhorn and these three Salem police officers then wrestled him to the ground&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>If only we could see Repent America&#8217;s video footage for the couple hours leading up to the five minutes of the arrest. A shame they didn&#8217;t feel that footage was important enough to share. Then we could have confirmation of the police approaching them earlier and asking them to stop using the megaphone early (which they reportedly agreed to do), we could also have confirmation of members of Repent America using the bullhorn in &#8220;aggressive tactics&#8221; including using it in someone&#8217;s face (sounds like &#8220;disorderly conduct&#8221; to me). </p>
<p>Instead, we get the five minutes. Context certainly is king, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks to me that there are some serious freedom of speech issues involved in the Michael Marcavage and Repent America case and that they do have some grounds for an appeal and possibly even a civil suit. I read the Salem News article and see some problems with the judgment against Marcavage. I dare say that Salem District Court Judge Michael Uhlarik may have shown &quot;poor judgment&quot; in finding Marcavage guilty of disorderly conduct.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I take note of the fact that the prosecutors offered to dismiss the case if Marcavage paid $100 in court costs. This is often an indication of having a weak case. They had already dropped a charge that Marcavage violated a city noise ordinance, which bars the use of amplification for noncommercial speech after 10 p.m. for obvious reasons. . .&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The &quot;disorderly conduct&quot; charge clearly revolves around the Salem police officer&#039;s decision to confiscate Marcavage&#039;s megaphone and his refusal to allow them to do so. Is it really &quot;disorderly conduct&quot; for people to refuse to obey police officers who are demanding something that is out of line with both the letter and the spirit of the law whether that law be the Constitution or municipal bylaws? Is the simple act of disobeying of a police officer, even if that refusal to obey the demands of the police may be quite justified, &quot;disorderly conduct&quot;? Because that is what this case comes down to.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Judge Michael Uhlarik said, &quot;What I saw on that tape was defiance and basically passive-aggressiveness. . . It was not a good decision by your client.&quot; Was it a good decision by Judge Uhlarik to find Marcavage&#039;s defiance and passive resistance to the questionable demands of Salem police that disregarded the fact that Salem municipal bylaws allowed use of amplification devices up until 10pm. constituted &quot;disorderly conduct? Regardless of what one may think of Marcavage&#039;s fundamentalist Christian religious beliefs, and his expression thereof, he has a valid point when he asserts that the Salem police &quot;took the law into their own hands&quot; and that the police order to turn over the bullhorn was unlawful.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What about the &quot;increasingly hostile and drunk crowd&quot;? Surely they were rather more guilty of &quot;disorderly conduct&quot; than Marcavage was yet there is no evidence of the Salem police trying to calm the drunk and disorderly crowd. . . If the situation &quot;turned into a fiasco&quot;, as alleged by Lt. Paul Lemelin, it might have a lot to do with how he and other Salem Patrolmen handled the situation. It seems to me that the situation only became &quot;disorderly&quot;, to say nothing of a &quot;fiasco&quot;. . . when Lt. Lemelin and Patrolmen Ryan Davis and Brian Butler physically struggled with Marcavage over his bullhorn and these three Salem police officers then wrestled him to the ground as may be clearly seen in Repent America&#039;s &quot;self-serving&quot; YouTube video of &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYuaOenys60&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this incident&lt;/a&gt;. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks to me that there are some serious freedom of speech issues involved in the Michael Marcavage and Repent America case and that they do have some grounds for an appeal and possibly even a civil suit. I read the Salem News article and see some problems with the judgment against Marcavage. I dare say that Salem District Court Judge Michael Uhlarik may have shown &#8220;poor judgment&#8221; in finding Marcavage guilty of disorderly conduct.</p>
<p>I take note of the fact that the prosecutors offered to dismiss the case if Marcavage paid $100 in court costs. This is often an indication of having a weak case. They had already dropped a charge that Marcavage violated a city noise ordinance, which bars the use of amplification for noncommercial speech after 10 p.m. for obvious reasons. . .</p>
<p>The &#8220;disorderly conduct&#8221; charge clearly revolves around the Salem police officer&#8217;s decision to confiscate Marcavage&#8217;s megaphone and his refusal to allow them to do so. Is it really &#8220;disorderly conduct&#8221; for people to refuse to obey police officers who are demanding something that is out of line with both the letter and the spirit of the law whether that law be the Constitution or municipal bylaws? Is the simple act of disobeying of a police officer, even if that refusal to obey the demands of the police may be quite justified, &#8220;disorderly conduct&#8221;? Because that is what this case comes down to.</p>
<p>Judge Michael Uhlarik said, &#8220;What I saw on that tape was defiance and basically passive-aggressiveness. . . It was not a good decision by your client.&#8221; Was it a good decision by Judge Uhlarik to find Marcavage&#8217;s defiance and passive resistance to the questionable demands of Salem police that disregarded the fact that Salem municipal bylaws allowed use of amplification devices up until 10pm. constituted &#8220;disorderly conduct? Regardless of what one may think of Marcavage&#8217;s fundamentalist Christian religious beliefs, and his expression thereof, he has a valid point when he asserts that the Salem police &#8220;took the law into their own hands&#8221; and that the police order to turn over the bullhorn was unlawful.</p>
<p>What about the &#8220;increasingly hostile and drunk crowd&#8221;? Surely they were rather more guilty of &#8220;disorderly conduct&#8221; than Marcavage was yet there is no evidence of the Salem police trying to calm the drunk and disorderly crowd. . . If the situation &#8220;turned into a fiasco&#8221;, as alleged by Lt. Paul Lemelin, it might have a lot to do with how he and other Salem Patrolmen handled the situation. It seems to me that the situation only became &#8220;disorderly&#8221;, to say nothing of a &#8220;fiasco&#8221;. . . when Lt. Lemelin and Patrolmen Ryan Davis and Brian Butler physically struggled with Marcavage over his bullhorn and these three Salem police officers then wrestled him to the ground as may be clearly seen in Repent America&#8217;s &#8220;self-serving&#8221; YouTube video of <a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYuaOenys60" REL="nofollow">this incident</a>. . .</p>
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