Comments on: Who Would The Goddess Vote For? http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-goddess-vote-for.html Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:51:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Aedus http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-goddess-vote-for.html/comment-page-1#comment-1475 Aedus Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:33:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-the-goddess-vote-for.html#comment-1475 I guess I should apologize, sarcasm shows very poorly in blog comments.<br/><br/>I, personally, find the current Democratic race <i>interesting</i>... Should I feel guilty about doubting a minority, or a woman more? If we have to suffer through a Democratic President/Congress, will we need to worry more about our criticisms of the president since civil-rights activists will be watching us as well as the secret service?<br/><br/>And yes, it was strange to finally realize that all of my personal beliefs and opinions on how the federal government should be run aligned me with fiscal, constitutionalist conservatives. I mean, I supported John Edwards in 2004, but I was just a feel-good democrat. I wasn't interested in policies at the time, since my initial concern in 2000 was Bush's Faith Based Initiatives and his past remarks about "witchcraft", and it only got worse from there.<br/><br/>Does my hard-core conservative streak make me feel like I should blindly support a political party now? No way, I learned better after the democrats, but politics sometimes make strange bedfellows right? But I do know that strict fiscal conservatism can best be served with limited federal government, that a limited gov't is inline with the Constitution, and that the less of "them" there is in our lives, the more freedom "we" have over ourselves and our futures.<br/><br/>And that, my friend, is what I think the gods (and goddesses) want for me to pursue. =) I guess I should apologize, sarcasm shows very poorly in blog comments.

I, personally, find the current Democratic race interesting… Should I feel guilty about doubting a minority, or a woman more? If we have to suffer through a Democratic President/Congress, will we need to worry more about our criticisms of the president since civil-rights activists will be watching us as well as the secret service?

And yes, it was strange to finally realize that all of my personal beliefs and opinions on how the federal government should be run aligned me with fiscal, constitutionalist conservatives. I mean, I supported John Edwards in 2004, but I was just a feel-good democrat. I wasn’t interested in policies at the time, since my initial concern in 2000 was Bush’s Faith Based Initiatives and his past remarks about “witchcraft”, and it only got worse from there.

Does my hard-core conservative streak make me feel like I should blindly support a political party now? No way, I learned better after the democrats, but politics sometimes make strange bedfellows right? But I do know that strict fiscal conservatism can best be served with limited federal government, that a limited gov’t is inline with the Constitution, and that the less of “them” there is in our lives, the more freedom “we” have over ourselves and our futures.

And that, my friend, is what I think the gods (and goddesses) want for me to pursue. =)

]]> By: Jason Pitzl-Waters http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-goddess-vote-for.html/comment-page-1#comment-1446 Jason Pitzl-Waters Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:17:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-the-goddess-vote-for.html#comment-1446 "Now, I don't really understand why the Goddess has to be a Democrat, let alone most pagans..."<br/><br/>Personally, I doubt the Goddess belongs to any political party. I focused solely on the Democrats in this post, because the split here was between two key figures in the Women's Spirituality movement over which Democrat they supported in the primaries.<br/><br/>As for why the Democrats are so popular among Pagans? I think the large role conservative Christians play in the Republican party may have something to do with it. “Now, I don’t really understand why the Goddess has to be a Democrat, let alone most pagans…”

Personally, I doubt the Goddess belongs to any political party. I focused solely on the Democrats in this post, because the split here was between two key figures in the Women’s Spirituality movement over which Democrat they supported in the primaries.

As for why the Democrats are so popular among Pagans? I think the large role conservative Christians play in the Republican party may have something to do with it.

]]> By: Aedus http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-goddess-vote-for.html/comment-page-1#comment-1445 Aedus Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:36:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-the-goddess-vote-for.html#comment-1445 Now, I don't really understand why the Goddess has to be a Democrat, let alone most pagans...<br/><br/>Redistribution of property, welfare, and a perpetuation of the nanny/big-brother state? Chalk me and my gods up to the pre-diluted conservative movement! Now, I don’t really understand why the Goddess has to be a Democrat, let alone most pagans…

Redistribution of property, welfare, and a perpetuation of the nanny/big-brother state? Chalk me and my gods up to the pre-diluted conservative movement!

]]> By: pitch313 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-goddess-vote-for.html/comment-page-1#comment-1441 pitch313 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:58:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-the-goddess-vote-for.html#comment-1441 In a polytheistic Neo-Pagan meta-pantheon, some Goddesses might prefer Hilary Clinton, others might prefer Barak Obama. Diversity of divine opinion concerning US political races. <br/><br/>My own suspicion is that most Goddesses wouldn't vote in a US election. Better things to do. Better ways for Goddesses to do them. All that. <br/><br/>Since I prefer that religiously-driven outlooks on immediate political questions, like nominating candidates for high office in US politics, be held to a minimum, I'm happy that Goddesses not take sides over Clinton or Obama. In a polytheistic Neo-Pagan meta-pantheon, some Goddesses might prefer Hilary Clinton, others might prefer Barak Obama. Diversity of divine opinion concerning US political races.

My own suspicion is that most Goddesses wouldn’t vote in a US election. Better things to do. Better ways for Goddesses to do them. All that.

Since I prefer that religiously-driven outlooks on immediate political questions, like nominating candidates for high office in US politics, be held to a minimum, I’m happy that Goddesses not take sides over Clinton or Obama.

]]> By: Erik http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-goddess-vote-for.html/comment-page-1#comment-1439 Erik Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:38:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-the-goddess-vote-for.html#comment-1439 Well, as Tanya Higgins <a HREF="http://www.betapwned.com/index.php?p=113" REL="nofollow">pointed out recently</a>, voting for a woman just because she's a woman is as sexist as the reverse. (Link not entirely SFW, depending on where you work.) Well, as Tanya Higgins pointed out recently, voting for a woman just because she’s a woman is as sexist as the reverse. (Link not entirely SFW, depending on where you work.)

]]> By: Ali http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-goddess-vote-for.html/comment-page-1#comment-1438 Ali Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:11:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/02/who-would-the-goddess-vote-for.html#comment-1438 Personally, I find the argument that women should vote for Hillary <i>because she's a woman</i> to be very weak and unconvincing (along the same lines as people voting for George W. because he's a folksy cowboy-type). It's easy to sell oneself as a character or personality, but the proof is in the policy, as Christ points out. Plus, I think Morgan is a bit melodramatic in comparing one woman's tragic death and the sexual harassment of another to Hillary Clinton losing the election. Surely every woman--every <i>person</i>--has the right to dignity and life. But there are plenty of ordinary women and men out there who will never be president, without this being a grave injustice. I'll be as happy as the next feminist to finally see a woman in the Whitehouse--I just don't happen to think Hilary is the right person for the job. Personally, I find the argument that women should vote for Hillary because she’s a woman to be very weak and unconvincing (along the same lines as people voting for George W. because he’s a folksy cowboy-type). It’s easy to sell oneself as a character or personality, but the proof is in the policy, as Christ points out. Plus, I think Morgan is a bit melodramatic in comparing one woman’s tragic death and the sexual harassment of another to Hillary Clinton losing the election. Surely every woman–every person–has the right to dignity and life. But there are plenty of ordinary women and men out there who will never be president, without this being a grave injustice. I’ll be as happy as the next feminist to finally see a woman in the Whitehouse–I just don’t happen to think Hilary is the right person for the job.

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