Comments on: Snubbed Canadian Queen Comes Out of The Broom Closet http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:24:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: anonymous http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-5614 anonymous Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:59:32 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-5614 Karen Murray has been a yoga teacher for many years and I would put that in the same category as Reiki. Karen Murray has been a yoga teacher for many years and I would put that in the same category as Reiki.

]]> By: Anonymous http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-1482 Anonymous Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:26:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-1482 Having explored the website for the Toronto Tourism Pageant I found it interesting that they don't seem to have updated it since 2006, showing the contestants for the 2007 pageant, in which Miss Conover clearly listed her hobbies, Why were her hobbies then such a surprise to the organizers? And why were her hobbies alright for a contestant, yet not for a judge?<br/><br/>Good luck in your court case, I hope the hate-mongers are bankruptured!<br/><br/> Ruadh... Having explored the website for the Toronto Tourism Pageant I found it interesting that they don’t seem to have updated it since 2006, showing the contestants for the 2007 pageant, in which Miss Conover clearly listed her hobbies, Why were her hobbies then such a surprise to the organizers? And why were her hobbies alright for a contestant, yet not for a judge?

Good luck in your court case, I hope the hate-mongers are bankruptured!

Ruadh…

]]> By: bondgrrl27 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-1434 bondgrrl27 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:50:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-1434 I am shocked and horrified at this. This is a human rights issue for sure, we have freedom of religion in this country, goddess knows we pride ourselves on being multicultural. I have emailed Miss Toronto Tourism a letter stating my feelings, and I suggest that everyone else (who agrees with me) do the same. Perhaps we can get them to state a public apology and formal retraction of their words. Way to go Stephanie! You have showed yourself to be a great role model for women and humankind. I am shocked and horrified at this. This is a human rights issue for sure, we have freedom of religion in this country, goddess knows we pride ourselves on being multicultural. I have emailed Miss Toronto Tourism a letter stating my feelings, and I suggest that everyone else (who agrees with me) do the same. Perhaps we can get them to state a public apology and formal retraction of their words. Way to go Stephanie! You have showed yourself to be a great role model for women and humankind.

]]> By: Kobe Grace http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-1433 Kobe Grace Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:51:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-1433 What right does Miss Toronto Tourism have to judge someone based on religion? I mean, I guess it WOULD make sense if it were the 'Miss Toronto Society of Way Too Fanatical Christians', or something... What right does Miss Toronto Tourism have to judge someone based on religion? I mean, I guess it WOULD make sense if it were the ‘Miss Toronto Society of Way Too Fanatical Christians’, or something…

]]> By: Chandra Rooney http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-1428 Chandra Rooney Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:10:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-1428 For a <i>tourism</i> group they ought to be ashamed of themselves.<br/><br/>Good for Stephanie Conover for standing up for herself! For a tourism group they ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Good for Stephanie Conover for standing up for herself!

]]> By: Corvus Munnin http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-1427 Corvus Munnin Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:45:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-1427 It's clear that this is a policy of the Miss Toronto Tourism organization, and not one implemented by the government of Canada, or even the province of Ontario. My wife and myself are practicing Pagans, and we hold legal ministerial credentials here in California where we live (also valid in most U.S. states). Two years ago we traveled to rural Ontario to create and perform a handfasting ceremony for the daughter of some friends who live there, who are also Pagans. While we could not ourselves perform a legally binding ceremony in Ontario Canada, we were able to make it legal in the eyes of the Provincial govt. through the assistance of a local Wiccan Priest who does hold legal credentials in Ontario. With his signed approval of the ceremony on a legal document, our handfasting ritual was accepted by the province of Ontario as a valid and legally binding wedding ceremony; just as valid as any other religious wedding ceremony, Abrahamic or otherwise. So in my own experience, there is no official rejection of Paganism by authorities in Ontario Canada. Quite the reverse, in fact. It’s clear that this is a policy of the Miss Toronto Tourism organization, and not one implemented by the government of Canada, or even the province of Ontario. My wife and myself are practicing Pagans, and we hold legal ministerial credentials here in California where we live (also valid in most U.S. states). Two years ago we traveled to rural Ontario to create and perform a handfasting ceremony for the daughter of some friends who live there, who are also Pagans. While we could not ourselves perform a legally binding ceremony in Ontario Canada, we were able to make it legal in the eyes of the Provincial govt. through the assistance of a local Wiccan Priest who does hold legal credentials in Ontario. With his signed approval of the ceremony on a legal document, our handfasting ritual was accepted by the province of Ontario as a valid and legally binding wedding ceremony; just as valid as any other religious wedding ceremony, Abrahamic or otherwise. So in my own experience, there is no official rejection of Paganism by authorities in Ontario Canada. Quite the reverse, in fact.

]]> By: Anonymous http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-1426 Anonymous Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:02:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-1426 And the stupidity and blantant hatred and discrimination from these people continue<br/><br/>http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_19017.aspx<br/><br/>Quote from the end of the news item:<br/><br/>"Miss Toronto Tourism, which isn't affiliated with the city's tourism office, stands by the decision. "We (accept) all religions, all nationalities, but we would reject them if they were into witchcraft," reaffirms pageant spokesperson Karen Murray." And the stupidity and blantant hatred and discrimination from these people continue

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_19017.aspx

Quote from the end of the news item:

“Miss Toronto Tourism, which isn’t affiliated with the city’s tourism office, stands by the decision. “We (accept) all religions, all nationalities, but we would reject them if they were into witchcraft,” reaffirms pageant spokesperson Karen Murray.”

]]> By: aislingthebard http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-1425 aislingthebard Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:52:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-1425 I was shocked first, thinking of Canada, compared to the country to the south, as a bastion of tolerance. Then I became discouraged, believing that this is some kind of fundamentalist trend...and then got my sense of proportion back realizing, as another person said above, that this is only one pageant. So...am joining the leaders of several other Pagan religious organizations to write a letter to the Pageant's organizers and also to many of their sponsors stating our non-support of this bigoted viewpoint. Hit 'em in the pocketbook. And...Stephanie, way to go, woman! Nice work being a role model! I was shocked first, thinking of Canada, compared to the country to the south, as a bastion of tolerance. Then I became discouraged, believing that this is some kind of fundamentalist trend…and then got my sense of proportion back realizing, as another person said above, that this is only one pageant. So…am joining the leaders of several other Pagan religious organizations to write a letter to the Pageant’s organizers and also to many of their sponsors stating our non-support of this bigoted viewpoint. Hit ‘em in the pocketbook. And…Stephanie, way to go, woman! Nice work being a role model!

]]> By: Mel http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-1424 Mel Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:41:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-1424 <i>It is deeply saddening that people still think -800 years after the church started burning my people (Unoficially **Twenty million** Pagans were put to death)</i><br/><br/>Get your facts straight. Twenty million people killed in the witch-hunts? Try 40,000-100,000. I know that number makes it very difficult to cry "persecution!", but you are making that call about the wrong group to begin with. ;) The folk that were killed tended to be <i>other Christians</i>, if I may be so general.<br/>I suggest looking up the medieval witch-hunts sometime using a source that contains a thorough bibliography.<br/><br/>Forget fighting situations surrounding beauty queens - we should be fighting <i>misinformation spread by our fellow Pagans</i>. It is deeply saddening that people still think -800 years after the church started burning my people (Unoficially **Twenty million** Pagans were put to death)

Get your facts straight. Twenty million people killed in the witch-hunts? Try 40,000-100,000. I know that number makes it very difficult to cry “persecution!”, but you are making that call about the wrong group to begin with. ;) The folk that were killed tended to be other Christians, if I may be so general.
I suggest looking up the medieval witch-hunts sometime using a source that contains a thorough bibliography.

Forget fighting situations surrounding beauty queens – we should be fighting misinformation spread by our fellow Pagans.

]]> By: Jenn93 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of.html/comment-page-1#comment-1423 Jenn93 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:26:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/snubbed-canadian-queen-comes-out-of-the-broom-closet.html#comment-1423 "Amazing that there's still so little religious tolerance in Canada"<br/><br/>What a stupid thing to say.<br/>Amazing how such a blanket statement can be made about an entire country based on the actions of one organization. There is plenty of religious tolerance in Canada, especially in Toronto. This kind of attitude in no way the standard any more than Fred Phelps is the average American. “Amazing that there’s still so little religious tolerance in Canada”

What a stupid thing to say.
Amazing how such a blanket statement can be made about an entire country based on the actions of one organization. There is plenty of religious tolerance in Canada, especially in Toronto. This kind of attitude in no way the standard any more than Fred Phelps is the average American.

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