Comments on: Christian Military and Malicious Magic http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:29:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: The Wild Hunt » (Pagan) News of Note http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html/comment-page-1#comment-2869 The Wild Hunt » (Pagan) News of Note Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:50:21 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html#comment-2869 [...] with her concerns, and to seek counselling in order to deal with the emotional stress, but I fear that this is a far deeper problem than a few uncaring teachers. The military culture has become downright hostile to non-Christian faith expressions, often [...] [...] with her concerns, and to seek counselling in order to deal with the emotional stress, but I fear that this is a far deeper problem than a few uncaring teachers. The military culture has become downright hostile to non-Christian faith expressions, often [...]

]]> By: Yvonne http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html/comment-page-1#comment-1404 Yvonne Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:27:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html#comment-1404 This is deeply scary. Malicious magic indeed. We should all be doing protection magic for this guy. This is deeply scary. Malicious magic indeed. We should all be doing protection magic for this guy.

]]> By: Copper Asetemhat Stewart http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html/comment-page-1#comment-1403 Copper Asetemhat Stewart Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:58:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html#comment-1403 Thanks for calling it malicious magic and pointing out the similarities. There's lots of this stuff in the "spiritual warfare" ideas and practices... it's not a military context, but a good chronicle of an intense effort is _Prayer Warriors_ by Stuart Howell Miller, a gay man targeted by his family and their evangelical social circle, as well as by a nation-wide prayer chain--a harrowing look at the micro-level effects. They ended up praying that God kill their son rather than allow him to persist in homosexuality, relying on scriptural justification. Thanks for calling it malicious magic and pointing out the similarities. There’s lots of this stuff in the “spiritual warfare” ideas and practices… it’s not a military context, but a good chronicle of an intense effort is _Prayer Warriors_ by Stuart Howell Miller, a gay man targeted by his family and their evangelical social circle, as well as by a nation-wide prayer chain–a harrowing look at the micro-level effects. They ended up praying that God kill their son rather than allow him to persist in homosexuality, relying on scriptural justification.

]]> By: THE Michael http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html/comment-page-1#comment-1401 THE Michael Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:00:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html#comment-1401 It would seem to me that this is just the kind of work the ACLU loves to take on....has anyone tried to get them onboard with this? It would seem to me that this is just the kind of work the ACLU loves to take on….has anyone tried to get them onboard with this?

]]> By: Barbara http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html/comment-page-1#comment-1400 Barbara Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:52:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html#comment-1400 Thank you for the link. I've added it to my blog. It's inexcusable that anyone serving in our military is treated this way.<br/><br/>I personally think that anyone who pushes any religion on someone in this manner is a little insane. Surely they don't believe their God wants people to come to Him by force? That's not the Christianity I used to be part of, and I had problems with its pushy missionary style. This is inquisition-style, or more like an abusive cult than religion. What next? Vats of Koolaid laced with cyanide? Shameful ... just shameful. Thank you for the link. I’ve added it to my blog. It’s inexcusable that anyone serving in our military is treated this way.

I personally think that anyone who pushes any religion on someone in this manner is a little insane. Surely they don’t believe their God wants people to come to Him by force? That’s not the Christianity I used to be part of, and I had problems with its pushy missionary style. This is inquisition-style, or more like an abusive cult than religion. What next? Vats of Koolaid laced with cyanide? Shameful … just shameful.

]]> By: sunfell http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html/comment-page-1#comment-1398 sunfell Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:42:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html#comment-1398 When I was serving in the USAF, I came to work early one morning to discover my Christian colleagues in a circle, praying for my demise (by name!)- they were praying that God would make me miserable enough to 'break' me so I would crawl to Jesus. I had been suffering panic attacks, nightmares and near- suicidal depression- and at that moment I understood why. <br/><br/>Their "prayer" was answered: I ended up being demoted (due to active sabotage on their part) and left the service before retirement (honorable discharge). But the wheel of karma did swing around, and caught some of them on the return stroke- they made the fatal error of bragging about what they did in front of the squadron commander. Two were demoted, one was dishonorably discharged. <br/><br/>I am not a bit surprised that these 'Christians' are actively using black magic/toxic prayer against Mikey and people who aren't in their camp. In their eyes, it's OK to do this- God has their back, or so they believe. When I was serving in the USAF, I came to work early one morning to discover my Christian colleagues in a circle, praying for my demise (by name!)- they were praying that God would make me miserable enough to ‘break’ me so I would crawl to Jesus. I had been suffering panic attacks, nightmares and near- suicidal depression- and at that moment I understood why.

Their “prayer” was answered: I ended up being demoted (due to active sabotage on their part) and left the service before retirement (honorable discharge). But the wheel of karma did swing around, and caught some of them on the return stroke- they made the fatal error of bragging about what they did in front of the squadron commander. Two were demoted, one was dishonorably discharged.

I am not a bit surprised that these ‘Christians’ are actively using black magic/toxic prayer against Mikey and people who aren’t in their camp. In their eyes, it’s OK to do this- God has their back, or so they believe.

]]> By: Toonhead http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html/comment-page-1#comment-1397 Toonhead Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:58:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/01/christian-military-and-malicious-magic.html#comment-1397 As a former evangelical, I find the behavior described shocking. The practices described were very much against the teachings of my church. You pray to God in the name of Jesus to save a soul or change a way of thinking but never ever pray for destruction, bad things to happen or take joy in the suffering of others. They are doing what Wiccans are condemned as doing. If I went back I don't think I would recognize it. What the gentle carass? As a former evangelical, I find the behavior described shocking. The practices described were very much against the teachings of my church. You pray to God in the name of Jesus to save a soul or change a way of thinking but never ever pray for destruction, bad things to happen or take joy in the suffering of others. They are doing what Wiccans are condemned as doing. If I went back I don’t think I would recognize it. What the gentle carass?

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