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		<title>By: The Wild Hunt &#187; Will Supremes Weigh in on Skiers vs. Sacred Land?</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/04/sacred-lands-safe-once-more.html/comment-page-1#comment-2547</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wild Hunt &#187; Will Supremes Weigh in on Skiers vs. Sacred Land?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Vatican&#8221;. Since 2005 the coalition have endured ignorant insults from lawyers, courtroom wins, and courtroom losses. Now the case is being appealed before the Suprem Court for a final say.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Vatican&#8221;. Since 2005 the coalition have endured ignorant insults from lawyers, courtroom wins, and courtroom losses. Now the case is being appealed before the Suprem Court for a final say.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/04/sacred-lands-safe-once-more.html/comment-page-1#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is also worth noting that part of the reason Snowbowl (and the US Forestry Service) lost is because they didn&#039;t even bother to do a study on the environmental impact of piping in and using that water. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Furthermore, there is reclaimed water, and then there is reclaimed water. Pro-waste snow advocates have been wildly overstating the quality of the water that would be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also worth noting that part of the reason Snowbowl (and the US Forestry Service) lost is because they didn&#8217;t even bother to do a study on the environmental impact of piping in and using that water. </p>
<p>Furthermore, there is reclaimed water, and then there is reclaimed water. Pro-waste snow advocates have been wildly overstating the quality of the water that would be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/04/sacred-lands-safe-once-more.html/comment-page-1#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m not against using reclaimed water (I&#039;m actually all for it), and I&#039;m not against progress. But I am against the stupid use of either. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is/was no great need for Snowbowl&#039;s expansion except from the standpoint of Snowbowl. Contrary to their repeatedly stated opinion, the resort wasn&#039;t some grand fiscal boon to the surrounding area, it didn&#039;t draw in loads of outside business, it simply wanted to create more snow so it could make more money.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let us not confuse &quot;mountain recreation&quot; with progress. This wasn&#039;t a case of the &quot;needs of many&quot;, unless you mean the many who want to ski more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not against using reclaimed water (I&#8217;m actually all for it), and I&#8217;m not against progress. But I am against the stupid use of either. </p>
<p>There is/was no great need for Snowbowl&#8217;s expansion except from the standpoint of Snowbowl. Contrary to their repeatedly stated opinion, the resort wasn&#8217;t some grand fiscal boon to the surrounding area, it didn&#8217;t draw in loads of outside business, it simply wanted to create more snow so it could make more money.</p>
<p>Let us not confuse &#8220;mountain recreation&#8221; with progress. This wasn&#8217;t a case of the &#8220;needs of many&#8221;, unless you mean the many who want to ski more often.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/04/sacred-lands-safe-once-more.html/comment-page-1#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does not particularly bother me to be seen as being &quot;incorrect by response&quot; by those who subscribe to the current PC feeling that the San Francisco Peaks are truly sacred and revered. I acknowledge readily that they rightfully revered by the purist among the Hopi and Navaho People - at least those who pursue their traditional ways and live by traditional means.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just remember to cut some slack for those who worship Wal-Mart and all the other things that economic advancement has brought - European style housing, the automobile, employment, and the pursuit of the so called &quot;American Dream&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Think carefully of those that take full advantage of this &quot;western way of life&quot;. Are they truly those who we are to protect by this judgment?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps reclaimed water is not good enough for educated people to reuse, and don&#039;t kid yourself about those who do all over the world - just do the simple research - or that all the people in this environmentally challenged world should consider being more responsible and proactive in preserving what limited resources are indeed left, then perhaps you will be more comfortable with the Arizona Snowbowl being forced into using whatever potable water source is available to them - after all, the objection is a legal one that will remain as to their use of so called questionable quality reclaimed water.  The fact is that this water is more environmentally &quot;safe and pure&quot; than many of the private and municipal sources of water in this country. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perhaps the efforts of a very few have triumphed again, over the needs of many - not to mention the desires broader society.  Pitifully, ignorance remains bliss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not particularly bother me to be seen as being &#8220;incorrect by response&#8221; by those who subscribe to the current PC feeling that the San Francisco Peaks are truly sacred and revered. I acknowledge readily that they rightfully revered by the purist among the Hopi and Navaho People &#8211; at least those who pursue their traditional ways and live by traditional means.  </p>
<p>Just remember to cut some slack for those who worship Wal-Mart and all the other things that economic advancement has brought &#8211; European style housing, the automobile, employment, and the pursuit of the so called &#8220;American Dream&#8221;.</p>
<p>Think carefully of those that take full advantage of this &#8220;western way of life&#8221;. Are they truly those who we are to protect by this judgment?</p>
<p>Perhaps reclaimed water is not good enough for educated people to reuse, and don&#8217;t kid yourself about those who do all over the world &#8211; just do the simple research &#8211; or that all the people in this environmentally challenged world should consider being more responsible and proactive in preserving what limited resources are indeed left, then perhaps you will be more comfortable with the Arizona Snowbowl being forced into using whatever potable water source is available to them &#8211; after all, the objection is a legal one that will remain as to their use of so called questionable quality reclaimed water.  The fact is that this water is more environmentally &#8220;safe and pure&#8221; than many of the private and municipal sources of water in this country. </p>
<p>Perhaps the efforts of a very few have triumphed again, over the needs of many &#8211; not to mention the desires broader society.  Pitifully, ignorance remains bliss.</p>
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		<title>By: Hecate</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/04/sacred-lands-safe-once-more.html/comment-page-1#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>Hecate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for the 9th Circuit.  Who wants to go skiing on frozen sewage anyhow?  I&#039;m betting this isn&#039;t what the drafters of the legislation had in mind.  Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for the 9th Circuit.  Who wants to go skiing on frozen sewage anyhow?  I&#8217;m betting this isn&#8217;t what the drafters of the legislation had in mind.  Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/04/sacred-lands-safe-once-more.html/comment-page-1#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great news!  Thanks for keeping us posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news!  Thanks for keeping us posted.</p>
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		<title>By: ColoradoCelt</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/04/sacred-lands-safe-once-more.html/comment-page-1#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>ColoradoCelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy about this decision as well.  development is one thing but making snow where there naturally is none will not create a sustainable *economic* project.  That water should be going for agriculture to some Navajo and Hopi farmers who really need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy about this decision as well.  development is one thing but making snow where there naturally is none will not create a sustainable *economic* project.  That water should be going for agriculture to some Navajo and Hopi farmers who really need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/04/sacred-lands-safe-once-more.html/comment-page-1#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;if we don&#039;t change any of the land that has ever been considered sacred we wouldn&#039;t be able to live anywhere&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think Native Americans have allowed/suffered enough change and expansion don&#039;t you? The simple fact is that our government controls many sites sacred to indigenous Americans, and often makes bad decisions concerning them. The goal here isn&#039;t to stop the building of schools or churches , it is to stop the mismanagement of already &quot;protected&quot; sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if we don&#8217;t change any of the land that has ever been considered sacred we wouldn&#8217;t be able to live anywhere&#8221;</p>
<p>I think Native Americans have allowed/suffered enough change and expansion don&#8217;t you? The simple fact is that our government controls many sites sacred to indigenous Americans, and often makes bad decisions concerning them. The goal here isn&#8217;t to stop the building of schools or churches , it is to stop the mismanagement of already &#8220;protected&#8221; sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/04/sacred-lands-safe-once-more.html/comment-page-1#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m almost fully AI and I have mixed feelings on this.  The first is that it&#039;s wonderful that the land has been saved and will remain sacred.  The second is that if we don&#039;t change any of the land that has ever been considered sacred we wouldn&#039;t be able to live anywhere.  People have come before us, no matter where you are, that held that little spot you sit at to eat your dinner sacred.  In this case, particularly because the mountain was to become yet another ski resort - fabulous - but who makes the decision the next time when someone wants to build school or a church.  Who gets the privilege of drawing the line and why are &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; given the seemingly divine right?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s a tough line to walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m almost fully AI and I have mixed feelings on this.  The first is that it&#8217;s wonderful that the land has been saved and will remain sacred.  The second is that if we don&#8217;t change any of the land that has ever been considered sacred we wouldn&#8217;t be able to live anywhere.  People have come before us, no matter where you are, that held that little spot you sit at to eat your dinner sacred.  In this case, particularly because the mountain was to become yet another ski resort &#8211; fabulous &#8211; but who makes the decision the next time when someone wants to build school or a church.  Who gets the privilege of drawing the line and why are <i>they</i> given the seemingly divine right?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough line to walk.</p>
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