However they are a dwindling but vocal minority, the vast majority of Asa folk across the pond have done incredible work in reconstructing and redefining the religion.
Keeping the Old way alive and publishing their interpretations and lore, putting enormous amount of effort and funds into their studies and share this. These are the ones who will be remembered as the first generation Asa folk outside Europe.

Being Asatru is open to every one, the Gods will accept the Troth of a sincere person of whatever genetic or cultural origin. It’s insecure people, who will question and dispute this and guess what , they need this kind of security from their peers ie. Other people, they have to feel part of a crowd, a club.
I am Northlander I was born and raised in a traditional tolerant Dutch culture, I also look the part. I don’t depend on others opinion whether I am Asatru or not. Nor would I ever question an other’s Troth to the Aesir, certainly not on the basic of colour or any prior spiritual paths walked

So far as criticism of my book NM &M is concerned this was written in ’86 as ‘Leaves’ look at the bibliography for what sources actually were available that time. I had to use what was there, and more over I never claimed that my book was either Asatru or based on the Lore. I wrote it as a occultist and if it is partly derived from non Nordic sources it was inspired by the Western Mysteries not Wicca. But yeah it’s dated and I should finish my next one, and then a paintbrush came my way.

Freya Aswynn

And, exactly, like the entire creation myth opens up with Odin engaged in, none other than, an act of necromancy as it would appear.

Now if the idea of necromancy would be debated, Odin summonsed that Volva somehow!

So if we follow a logical train of progression, as has been seen in the last few blog posts, we can deduce that Odin is not Asatru either!

Nor, the lovely Freya of Vanaheim since it is she that gives the lessons of the craft to even Odin himself in exchange for Galdr magick.

Boy won’t those two be surprised to find out they are not of Asatru!

Orusta Redblade let us clarify at this passing. Is it your contention that because Aswynn (note the spelling please) calls herself a witch she is not Asatru? A simple yes or no will suffice.

Frith,
~M~
This blog has no spell check I’m doomed!

I read Freya’s comments regarding her use of magic against those who actively try to harm her. That hardly seems like “black magic” to me. If someone were to rush at me with their fists clenched and shoulders cocked, I’m coming out swinging! No where in the lore does it say that magic cannot be used to either defend or avenge oneself.

And to the earlier comment (paraphrased) regarding how the Pagan community needs to oust such people because of dark magical practices… not every witch is Wiccan, no matter what the story books say. All Pagan religious do not espouse supposed Wiccan virtue. I’ve witnessed enough of your ilk banishing this one or that one from your covens for not practicing the way the high-mucky-muck of a particular group wants them too.

Not every Pagan believes in some three-fold law, nor does everyone believe in some “harm none” code which sounds suspiciously like something plucked from Crowley. Have you ever actually tried to “harm none”? It’s impossible. In order to heal yourself from a cold, your body has to kill the virus. That’s harming the virus. If your immune system didn’t kill it, you could ultimately die, again, harming yourself. If you really believe in the “harm none” thing, you don’t get to pick and choose when to apply it. So to suggest that all Pagans oust anyone for practicing magic of any type is obsurd. Ostrocising someone based on a few paragraphs without taking the time to delve any deeper is irresponsible. Keep up that kind of behavior and eventually someone someday may slap you with a lawsuit for libel.

And since when does being a witch make someone not an Asatruar? On the flipside, since when does being a with automatically make you Wiccan? In order to be either Wiccan or Asatru, one would need to share in the belief system of either religion. The last time I checked my lore, there’s plenty of it that refers to magical practice. To ignore our magical history is to dishonor our ancestors. You certainly don’t have to learn magic to be Asatru, it’s in no way a requirement, but it’s not forbidden either.

To those who feel Freya is too “wiccatru”, well, where are your books? What have you done? If you feel you know better, share this wondrousness with the rest of us. If you can do better, by all means do so.

You don’t care? It’s a reference from the Lore. So you say you don’t care that it came from the Lore, so you don’t care about the Lore?

M writes:

You know good and well it is the ref you use towards Aswynn and not the lore that offends me you silly silly non universalist not even sure if your of age at this point person. To use the lore to degrade a person is dispicable!

Orusta wrote:

She could also claim to be Minnie Mouse, doesn’t make it so. She claims this, but did she swear on an Oath ring? Please re-read the article that started all this, it states she’s a self-admitted witch. She also admits to casting black magic directed at those she doesn’t like. Sounds like Wiccatru to me.

M Writes:

Well I beg to differ pal. She does not admit to casting magick against people just because she does not like them. You have put words into her mouth and now tis time to stop that.

Being attakced and fighting back is something very different than attacking. Perhaps you need a good lesson in attack and defence and the fine fine line that is so defined it can’t be missed that sits between the two when it comes to magickal warfare.

And, how do you know she didn’t take an oath on the ring?????????

Orusta wrote:
Asatru? No. She is not. Wiccatru? Most certainly. You can group her (as a writer) into the same bunch as Ed Fitch and DJ Conway.

M wirtes:

No way, your nuts.

Frith,
~M~

I write:
Maybe you should re-read my posts, I never once accused her of making up the Lore. Her practice of Wiccatru, yes. That’s made up on the spot. As for UPG, I can speculate that Runes should be be accompanied by trantric yoga, but it doesn’t mean it will fly or fits in with the Norse base.

M Writes:
As for the Asswind comment I don’t find it the least bit humourous as you know. I don’t care where you think this tid bit of historical content came from.

I write:
You don’t care? It’s a reference from the Lore. So you say you don’t care that it came from the Lore, so you don’t care about the Lore?

M writes:
So now you are sayiong that your way is the only way and what Asatru is and isn’t for everyone? Are you a Theodish by any chance there Orusta?

I write:
I am Non-Universalist. I only care HOW it is done.

M Writes:
I heard Freya Aswynn once say she was Asatru because she is true to the Aesir, period, what really more is there to say. Can you deny the meaning of the very word?

I write:
She could also claim to be Minnie Mouse, doesn’t make it so. She claims this, but did she swear on an Oath ring? Please re-read the article that started all this, it states she’s a self-admitted witch. She also admits to casting black magic directed at those she doesn’t like. Sounds like Wiccatru to me.

M writes:
If I am seen talking to President Bush does that make me a Repukelican, I mean Republican?

I write:
If you continue to hang around, then Yes.

M writes:
Now I suppose Thorbjorg is not a valid charachter since she may not fit your profile of what Asatru is or isn’t?

I write:
Asatru? No. She is not. Wiccatru? Most certainly. You can group her (as a writer) into the same bunch as Ed Fitch and DJ Conway.

Frith
Orusta Redblade

The Lore is what makes us Heathens, unlike the Wiccatru/Nicca crowd who make it up as they go along. As for the Asswind name well, considering Loki accuses Freya of farting when the gods surprised her with Freyr, the name “Freya Asswind” is almost historical! now isn’t it?

M Writes:

I am not sure who you think is making up actual lore. Much has been lost and shant be recovered by an conventional means. I know of no case where Freya Aswynn makes up lore. The runes she speculates from her own UPG and since I trust her I don’t have a problem with that seeings how I can basically verify or disqaulify anything I choose for myself.

As for the Asswind comment I don’t find it the least bit humourous as you know. I don’t care where you think this tid bit of historical content came from.

Orusta worte:

Shame on us for doing it right? Like our ancestors did? Ya, I feel real bad about that. Maybe you would feel better with calling corners or a hammer rite?

M writes:

So now you are sayiong that your way is the only way and what Asatru is and isn’t for everyone? Are you a Theodish by any chance there Orusta? I heard Freya Aswynn once say she was Asatru because she is true to the Aesir, period, what really more is there to say. Can you deny the meaning of the very word?

Orusta wrote:

All one has to do is read ‘Freya’s book and see that she is not Asatru. She even admits she’s a witch and has hung around with Raven Caldera. That really says something doesn’t it? If she and the others want to be Wiccatru, then fine. But don’t go around alluding to and making others think it is the same as Asatru

M writes:

If I am seen talking to President Bush does that make me a Repukelican, I mean Republican? I think a lot of the problem is the lil sybil qaulity. Now I suppose Thorbjorg is not a valid charachter since she may not fit your profile of what Asatru is or isn’t?

Frith,
~M~

Well, thats more like it now.

+++I will no longer partake in your insults as you have sunk to a very low realm of insult and seem to have seen fit to drag the sacred lore into the debate.+++

The Lore is what makes us Heathens, unlike the Wiccatru/Nicca crowd who make it up as they go along. As for the Asswind name well, considering Loki accuses Freya of farting when the gods surprised her with Freyr, the name “Freya Asswind” is almost historical! now isn’t it?

+++ Shame on me? No shame on you and all your kind.+++

Shame on us for doing it right? Like our ancestors did? Ya, I feel real bad about that. Maybe you would feel better with calling corners or a hammer rite?

+++ Perhaps since you see fit to change names around Orusta Deadfade would be better for you then.+++

All one has to do is read ‘Freya’s book and see that she is not Asatru. She even admits she’s a witch and has hung around with Raven Caldera. That really says something doesn’t it? If she and the others want to be Wiccatru, then fine. But don’t go around alluding to and making others think it is the same as Asatru. It is not.

+++And, I have no idea who you are talking to when you make comment of Wiccatru/Nicca. Your an ugly soul, I see you.+++

Wiccatru/Nicca. Read above.

+++Frith,
~M~+++

I know this moniker from somewhere, but where?

Frith
Orusta Redblade

And, I have no idea who you are talking to when you make comment of Wiccatru/Nicca. Your an ugly soul, I see you.

Frith,
~M~

Of course you differ, we all knew you would in your first post. Freya ‘Asswind’ has done as much for Asatru, as Hooters has done for chicken wings. Gods forbid you wiccatru/nicca types actually read the Lore and see who things are done instead of relying of fluff heads for your sources.

And you don’t even seem to understand Frith. Shame really. It’s all in the Lore.

Frith
Orusta Redblade