Comments on: Old Bones, Old Stones, New Pagans http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:42:27 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html/comment-page-1#comment-933 Anonymous Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:18:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html#comment-933 How can one have any sensible dialogue with persons displaying the arrogance of the post above..'the Council..our previous offer..and not discussed openly on the internet'.Almost risible, possibly a trifle sad...meglomania and tunnel vision in equal parts.COBDO have rescinded the position of reburial officer, due to an individual exploiting this role in order to propound his exceedlingly mediocre thesis,which has more holes in than a Swiss cheese. This person, thankfully, does not, in any way, represent COBDO. How can one have any sensible dialogue with persons displaying the arrogance of the post above..’the Council..our previous offer..and not discussed openly on the internet’.Almost risible, possibly a trifle sad…meglomania and tunnel vision in equal parts.COBDO have rescinded the position of reburial officer, due to an individual exploiting this role in order to propound his exceedlingly mediocre thesis,which has more holes in than a Swiss cheese. This person, thankfully, does not, in any way, represent COBDO.

]]> By: oddie http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html/comment-page-1#comment-924 oddie Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:49:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html#comment-924 Peace. <br/><br/>The Council of British Druid Orders believes that the current conflicts within the Council are best resolved through private dialogue mediated by individuals independent to both parties, and not discussed openly on the internet. This helps no one and hurts everyone. <br/><br/>This Council would like to repeat our previous offers for both parties to attend such talks in the near future. This is best done asap. We have already invited the 'other cobdo' group to such negociations and hope for resolution before any more back-stabbing can take place. <br/> <br/>Paul Davies /|\<br/>Reburial Officer, COBDO and Secular Order of Druids Peace.

The Council of British Druid Orders believes that the current conflicts within the Council are best resolved through private dialogue mediated by individuals independent to both parties, and not discussed openly on the internet. This helps no one and hurts everyone.

This Council would like to repeat our previous offers for both parties to attend such talks in the near future. This is best done asap. We have already invited the ‘other cobdo’ group to such negociations and hope for resolution before any more back-stabbing can take place.

Paul Davies /|\
Reburial Officer, COBDO and Secular Order of Druids

]]> By: Kay http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html/comment-page-1#comment-891 Kay Tue, 08 May 2007 22:39:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html#comment-891 The group claiming to speak for the Council of British Druid Orders on this subject is, in fact, an unauthorised and fraudulent group whose main two members were expelled by CoBDO proper last year and have set up a rival group claiming to be CoBDO. Legal action is currently being taken to prevent them from using this name.<br/><br/>I, as elected Scribe of CoBDO, would like to state that the views stated by this fake 'CoBDO' are not the views of the Council proper - CoBDO supports the work of HAD and has no need of a 'Reburial Officer'. We in the 21st century have no idea what people believed and would not be so arrogant as to impose a modern Pagan set of beliefs and conduct a reburial using those beliefs on a skeleton dug up archaeologically.<br/><br/>CoBDO supports Nick Hanks' comments and are saddened that he has had complaints raised against him by imposters claiming to be CoBDO.<br/><br/>KD<br/>Scribe<br/>CoBDO The group claiming to speak for the Council of British Druid Orders on this subject is, in fact, an unauthorised and fraudulent group whose main two members were expelled by CoBDO proper last year and have set up a rival group claiming to be CoBDO. Legal action is currently being taken to prevent them from using this name.

I, as elected Scribe of CoBDO, would like to state that the views stated by this fake ‘CoBDO’ are not the views of the Council proper – CoBDO supports the work of HAD and has no need of a ‘Reburial Officer’. We in the 21st century have no idea what people believed and would not be so arrogant as to impose a modern Pagan set of beliefs and conduct a reburial using those beliefs on a skeleton dug up archaeologically.

CoBDO supports Nick Hanks’ comments and are saddened that he has had complaints raised against him by imposters claiming to be CoBDO.

KD
Scribe
CoBDO

]]> By: Yvonne http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html/comment-page-1#comment-769 Yvonne Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:26:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html#comment-769 It's a shame that the Guardian covered the unrepresentative COBDO demonstration instead of the much more moderate and sensible conference on this issue.<br/><br/><a HREF="http://stroppyrabbit.blogspot.com/search/label/ancient%20dead" REL="nofollow">My views on this issue can be found here</a>. I favour a compromise, as I would like the concept of respect to be much more about memory than about reburial. I want to be remembered after I die, and I suspect our distant ancestors felt the same. I think the issue in Britain is different from the Native American issue, because the burial practices are very different. It’s a shame that the Guardian covered the unrepresentative COBDO demonstration instead of the much more moderate and sensible conference on this issue.

My views on this issue can be found here. I favour a compromise, as I would like the concept of respect to be much more about memory than about reburial. I want to be remembered after I die, and I suspect our distant ancestors felt the same. I think the issue in Britain is different from the Native American issue, because the burial practices are very different.

]]> By: Anne Johnson http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html/comment-page-1#comment-558 Anne Johnson Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:45:00 +0000 http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/10/old-bones-old-stones-new-pagans.html#comment-558 When I was in college I studied human and primate skeletal anatomy as part of my paleontology courses. It never bothered me to work with the skeletons of people who had sold their bones while living (that is done in poorer parts of the world), to be harvested after their deaths. But it did bother me exceedingly, to the point of mystic troubles, when I had to work with the Native American remains that poured into the Smithsonian in cartloads from those mounds in the Midwest. If scientists want to keep artifacts, fine. If they want to take pictures and DNA, fine. But all skeletons of humans who have not previously assented to have them used for science should be re-interred exactly where they were found. Not doing so disturbs The Force, and I can't think of another way to put it. When I was in college I studied human and primate skeletal anatomy as part of my paleontology courses. It never bothered me to work with the skeletons of people who had sold their bones while living (that is done in poorer parts of the world), to be harvested after their deaths. But it did bother me exceedingly, to the point of mystic troubles, when I had to work with the Native American remains that poured into the Smithsonian in cartloads from those mounds in the Midwest. If scientists want to keep artifacts, fine. If they want to take pictures and DNA, fine. But all skeletons of humans who have not previously assented to have them used for science should be re-interred exactly where they were found. Not doing so disturbs The Force, and I can’t think of another way to put it.

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