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		<title>By: Runt-like Hungarian</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/03/shamanic-bee-in-bonnet-looks-like.html/comment-page-1#comment-2186</link>
		<dc:creator>Runt-like Hungarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuff this for a game of dominoes! These guys can&#039;t lose. They all get that wonderful thing called publicity. Shaman-wars are hitting the New age news, Big deal.One thing I&#039;d like to know....about all of them...would any of them be shamans, I ask, if there was no-one there to watch them? no acolytes, no publishers, no fit birds, no Gods, no Spirits, nothing at all? Would they do all their magical spiritual stuff just for the sake of truth? Or just to make the dog smile....or some other worthwhile result? If they wouldn&#039;t....then I wouldn&#039;t recommend going to any of their workshops. But I bet the real answer would be no. They&#039;re all in it for the bucks, guys! And the affirmations, and the fit birds! So go away. Be your own Shamans, your own counsel. All they&#039;ll end up giving you is glamour, of one kind or another, and a wee hole in your credit-card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff this for a game of dominoes! These guys can&#8217;t lose. They all get that wonderful thing called publicity. Shaman-wars are hitting the New age news, Big deal.One thing I&#8217;d like to know&#8230;.about all of them&#8230;would any of them be shamans, I ask, if there was no-one there to watch them? no acolytes, no publishers, no fit birds, no Gods, no Spirits, nothing at all? Would they do all their magical spiritual stuff just for the sake of truth? Or just to make the dog smile&#8230;.or some other worthwhile result? If they wouldn&#8217;t&#8230;.then I wouldn&#8217;t recommend going to any of their workshops. But I bet the real answer would be no. They&#8217;re all in it for the bucks, guys! And the affirmations, and the fit birds! So go away. Be your own Shamans, your own counsel. All they&#8217;ll end up giving you is glamour, of one kind or another, and a wee hole in your credit-card.</p>
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		<title>By: beewatcher</title>
		<link>http://wildhunt.org/blog/2006/03/shamanic-bee-in-bonnet-looks-like.html/comment-page-1#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>beewatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting and uncannily similar pattern of language use and angles of character assassination used in many of the pro-Heaven, anti-Buxton comments across message boards - my guess is that &#039;Anonymous&#039; is an often used alias of Ross Heaven...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting and uncannily similar pattern of language use and angles of character assassination used in many of the pro-Heaven, anti-Buxton comments across message boards &#8211; my guess is that &#8216;Anonymous&#8217; is an often used alias of Ross Heaven&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last two posts are completely irrelevant as far as I&#039;m concerned. Buxton is the issue here.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If he&#039;s been passing off a book as his own and grabbing credit for it when he didn&#039;t write it, he needs to answer that allegation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And if the book&#039;s real author claims it was made-up, not a true story as Buxton says it is, that&#039;s another serious matter for Buxton to answer.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If he answers neither charge, at the very least, he may be conning people out of the price of the book under false claims (which is fraud, I think), or even out of hundreds of pounds if they go on workshops with him as a consequence.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What would answer this once and for all, is proof from Buxton that he wrote the whole book himself and proof that it relates his personal and real-life experiences.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the absence of either, Buyer Beware, and it doesn&#039;t matter in the slightest who drew Buxton&#039;s deceit to public attention. It&#039;s still deceit.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I notice that Buxton&#039;s been very quiet about all of this, and as far as I know he&#039;s offered neither of the proofs this matter needs in order to be resolved and his name to be cleared. I wonder why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last two posts are completely irrelevant as far as I&#8217;m concerned. Buxton is the issue here.</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s been passing off a book as his own and grabbing credit for it when he didn&#8217;t write it, he needs to answer that allegation.</p>
<p>And if the book&#8217;s real author claims it was made-up, not a true story as Buxton says it is, that&#8217;s another serious matter for Buxton to answer.</p>
<p>If he answers neither charge, at the very least, he may be conning people out of the price of the book under false claims (which is fraud, I think), or even out of hundreds of pounds if they go on workshops with him as a consequence.</p>
<p>What would answer this once and for all, is proof from Buxton that he wrote the whole book himself and proof that it relates his personal and real-life experiences.</p>
<p>In the absence of either, Buyer Beware, and it doesn&#8217;t matter in the slightest who drew Buxton&#8217;s deceit to public attention. It&#8217;s still deceit.</p>
<p>I notice that Buxton&#8217;s been very quiet about all of this, and as far as I know he&#8217;s offered neither of the proofs this matter needs in order to be resolved and his name to be cleared. I wonder why.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strangely enough I&#039;ve attended workshops with all of the people mentioned in the last post, with the exception of Racine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Geo Cameron is arrogant and bad-tempered and believes herself God&#039;s gift to Celtic shamanism. She will vigorously attack anyone she believes is stepping on &quot;her&quot; turf (even though she&#039;s never published a book so she actually doesn&#039;t have a turf!)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Howard G Charing is arrogant and goes beyond bad-tempered into outbursts of anger towards and in front of his students and has real control issues, including violently insulting a prominent shaman in the Amazon recently during an ayahuasca ceremony and alientating himself from the whole community. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Simon Buxton is well known in shamanism as a plagiarist and a fantacist who is only in it for the money. He didn&#039;t appear aggressive to me like the other two, more weak, insipid, and creepy. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ross Heaven, compared to that little lot, was like a saint on the workshop I went to, if only because he just got on with it, taught us some good techniques and insights and didn&#039;t bring his own issues, ego, neediness, or dramas into the weekend.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t think Heaven has done himself any favours by getting tangled up with people like Buxton, Charing, and Cameron, because, of course, if you hang out with filth for long enough some of the dirt will attach itself to you, but I think it&#039;s entirely wrong to call him a &#039;bad penny&#039; when he has in fact disassociated himself from the frauds, conmen, and control freaks as soon as they revealed their true natures. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe he&#039;s learned his lesson by getting himself taken out of Buxton&#039;s softback book, which wouldn&#039;t be that surprising either as it&#039;s widely known that Buxton ripped it off from Heaven and took all the credit as well as wrongly presenting it as a true story when it is actually a work of fiction. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My opinion? The previous poster seems to know a lot of toxic people. Heaven isn&#039;t one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strangely enough I&#8217;ve attended workshops with all of the people mentioned in the last post, with the exception of Racine.</p>
<p>Geo Cameron is arrogant and bad-tempered and believes herself God&#8217;s gift to Celtic shamanism. She will vigorously attack anyone she believes is stepping on &#8220;her&#8221; turf (even though she&#8217;s never published a book so she actually doesn&#8217;t have a turf!)</p>
<p>Howard G Charing is arrogant and goes beyond bad-tempered into outbursts of anger towards and in front of his students and has real control issues, including violently insulting a prominent shaman in the Amazon recently during an ayahuasca ceremony and alientating himself from the whole community. </p>
<p>Simon Buxton is well known in shamanism as a plagiarist and a fantacist who is only in it for the money. He didn&#8217;t appear aggressive to me like the other two, more weak, insipid, and creepy. </p>
<p>Ross Heaven, compared to that little lot, was like a saint on the workshop I went to, if only because he just got on with it, taught us some good techniques and insights and didn&#8217;t bring his own issues, ego, neediness, or dramas into the weekend.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Heaven has done himself any favours by getting tangled up with people like Buxton, Charing, and Cameron, because, of course, if you hang out with filth for long enough some of the dirt will attach itself to you, but I think it&#8217;s entirely wrong to call him a &#8216;bad penny&#8217; when he has in fact disassociated himself from the frauds, conmen, and control freaks as soon as they revealed their true natures. </p>
<p>Maybe he&#8217;s learned his lesson by getting himself taken out of Buxton&#8217;s softback book, which wouldn&#8217;t be that surprising either as it&#8217;s widely known that Buxton ripped it off from Heaven and took all the credit as well as wrongly presenting it as a true story when it is actually a work of fiction. </p>
<p>My opinion? The previous poster seems to know a lot of toxic people. Heaven isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the UK and Ross Heaven is pretty well known as the &#039;bad penny&#039; of shamanism over here and he has fallen out not only with his Vodou teacher Mambo Racine and with Simon Buxton but with many others too, including Howard Charing who was the co-author with Heaven of the new book Plant Spirit Shaman and Dr. Geo Cameron, the authority on celtic shamanism.  That&#039;s quite a pattern dontcha think? And anyway, the new paperback edition of Buxton&#039;s book is just out, and carries no  mention of Heaven - so his publishers   have obvioulsy felt no obligation to associate him with it . My opinion? This guy Heaven is toxic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the UK and Ross Heaven is pretty well known as the &#8216;bad penny&#8217; of shamanism over here and he has fallen out not only with his Vodou teacher Mambo Racine and with Simon Buxton but with many others too, including Howard Charing who was the co-author with Heaven of the new book Plant Spirit Shaman and Dr. Geo Cameron, the authority on celtic shamanism.  That&#8217;s quite a pattern dontcha think? And anyway, the new paperback edition of Buxton&#8217;s book is just out, and carries no  mention of Heaven &#8211; so his publishers   have obvioulsy felt no obligation to associate him with it . My opinion? This guy Heaven is toxic.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 01:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the guy&#039;s passing it off as nonfiction when it&#039;s not, then that&#039;s definitely questionable.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, the whole POINT of ghostwriting is that the ghostwriter&#039;s name isn&#039;t mentioned anywhere! If Heaven wanted credit he should&#039;ve arranged for coauthorship instead. Does he not know what ghostwriting means? I don&#039;t get the impression that he was invited as a collaborator and then his name got dropped afterwards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the guy&#8217;s passing it off as nonfiction when it&#8217;s not, then that&#8217;s definitely questionable.</p>
<p>However, the whole POINT of ghostwriting is that the ghostwriter&#8217;s name isn&#8217;t mentioned anywhere! If Heaven wanted credit he should&#8217;ve arranged for coauthorship instead. Does he not know what ghostwriting means? I don&#8217;t get the impression that he was invited as a collaborator and then his name got dropped afterwards&#8230;</p>
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