Pagan Community Notes: Maetreum of Cybele Loses Case, M. Macha NightMare Leaves Reclaiming, New Alexandrian Library Raises Funds, and Spiral Scouts Step Up

Jason Pitzl-Waters —  August 7, 2012 — 44 Comments

Pagan Community Notes is a series focused on news originating from within the Pagan community. Reinforcing the idea that what happens to and within our organizations, groups, and events is news, and news-worthy. My hope is that more individuals, especially those working within Pagan organizations, get into the habit of sharing their news with the world. So let’s get started!

Judge Rules Against Maetreum of Cybele Exemptions: The Maetreum of Cybele, Magna Mater, in an ongoing tax battle with the Town of Catskill, New York, has just lost their exemption battle before the New York State Supreme Court. While Judge Platkin acknowledged the Maetreum as a valid religion, he denied their building tax exemption on the grounds that the charitable purposes of the building were incidental to  its function.

The Maetreum of Cybele's building.

The Maetreum of Cybele’s building.

“The Court finds that petitioner has not satisfied its burden of demonstrating that the primary actual use of the property is in furtherance of the Maetreum’s religious mission. Rather, the record developed at trial establishes that the property primarily is used to provide affordable cooperative housing to a small number of co-religionists, with the religious and charitible uses of the property being merely incidental to that primary non-exempt use.”

Rev Cathryn Platine says she is devastated by the news, and doubts she has the fiscal or physical resources to continue this fight, noting that the process has “taken a huge toll on me personally regarding my health.” That said, Plataine says an appeal of this decision, and filing for a stay on foreclosure against the property are probably the next steps she will take. In a previous public statement, Rev Platine noted that the town has spent an estimated quarter of a million dollars to deny their exemptions, while the Maetreum is over ten thousand dollars in debt from the proceedings. Acting Catskill Town Supervisor Patrick Walsh stated in 2011 that the town was already too deep into the case to give up and that significant dollars could be saved by preventing exemptions for illegitimate religions.” For those wanting to an make a tax-deductible donation to their $10,000+ legal bill, you can do so directly via paypal to: centralhouse@gallae.com. Or you can contact them through their website.

Reclaiming Co-Founder Withdraws From Tradition: M. Macha NightMare (Aline O’Brien), a co-founder of the Reclaiming tradition, and co-author of “The Pagan Book of Living and Dying” with Starhawk, has announced on her blog that she is parting ways from the tradition she helped found, saying she “no longer feel[s] that its principles and practices accord” with her own.

M. Macha NightMare on the cover of the upcoming issue of Witches & Pagans.

M. Macha NightMare on the cover of the upcoming issue of Witches & Pagans (out in September).

“I have long felt alienated, estranged, and out of sync with how I’ve seen the tradition devolving. The incompatibilities between Reclaiming and me also trace to loose, undefined standards; lack of accountability; uncivil personal conduct and rude, disrespectful behavior without any restraint or consequences; lack of coherent theology; lack of intellectual rigor; and carelessness in ritual and other aspects of religious practice.” 

NightMare/O’Brien, who also serves on the board of Cherry Hill Seminary, is not the only prominent Reclaiming Witch to express discomfort with the tradition as it exists today, Anne Hill, who co-wrote “Circle Round: Raising Children in Goddess Traditions,” declared herself “Remaining” in 2007 and that she is “staying connected on my own terms, choosing my battles, and letting the rest go.” What this development means for Reclaiming, and its development, is uncertain. What is certain is that an elder and co-founder publicly severing ties with a tradition they helped found is a call to reflection on how this state of affairs came to be.

New Alexandrian Library Raises Funds to Finish Construction: At the end of 2011 the New Alexandrian Library, a project that hopes to create “a library worthy of its namesake” focused on esoteric knowledge, mystical and the spiritual writings from many traditions, officially broke ground on their physical space in Delaware.  Last month the foundations for that library were poured for the dome structure that will be erected. Now, an IndieGoGo fundraiser has been launched to pay for the next stage of construction.

“The NAL will serve to support and advance serious academic study for new, non-mainstream, esoteric, ‘living’ religions that are most likely to be the guiding forces in guiding the Earth and Humans back to health and evolution of Spirit in the coming century. Like the original Great Library of Alexandria, the schools of Qabala in medieval Spain, and the flourishing of magick that occurred in renaissance Italy, the diverse confluence of minds and resources would result in great leaps forward in theory and practice. The NAL will be one of the cornerstones (of many created by various groups across the globe we hope!) of a new magickal renaissance. The benefits of this growing network for future generations will be incalculable.”

The goal is $12,500 by September 11th. So far NAL has raised $1345 towards that goal. The NAL project has already started building an impressive collection, one that includes the recent acquisition of rare Dion Fortune paintings gifted by Dolores Ashcroft Nowicki. As NAL board member Ivo Dominguez Jr says in the video above, this is a project initiated by us, for us, one that deserves our support so that it can become a reality. For more information check out their Facebook page, or go to their official website. You can read all of The Wild Hunt’s coverage of the New Alexandrian Library project, here.

Spiral Scouts Honor Eagle Scout Protest: Due to an ongoing policy of the Boy Scouts of America “not granting membership to open or avowed homosexuals,” one recently affirmed by its leadership, a growing number of Eagle Scouts, the organization’s elite members (including Circle Sanctuary Minister  Bob Paxton), have been resigning their membership and sending back their badges and medals. Now, alternative scouting organization SpiralScouts International has announced that they are offering any Eagle Scout who returned their badges in protest their highest honors.

“SpiralScouts International respects the leadership, and responsibility demonstrated by these brave men, who have returned their Eagle Scout badges over this disagreement. We offer each of you the honorary status of ‘PathFinder’, and the Award of ‘Founder’ (our Eagle Scout Equivalent) within SpiralScouts. This is our highest rank, and as you have set forth to hold to the ideals of understanding, equality, and leadership, that we strive for within SSI, it would be our honor to extend this to you. Our program, which began in 1999, was developed to be as inclusive as possible in all areas: it features coed groups and leaders and is nondiscriminatory in all regards (sexual orientation, religion, gender). The program is available to all children, and we are happy to be able to offer this option for scouts.”

SpiralScouts International, which is a project of the Aquarian Tabernacle Church, says that “although it cannot repair the hurt that has been caused, we hope this gesture lends support to those who are struggling, and helps us take a step forward into a future that embraces all of us as the sacred beings that each of us are.” Contact information for the SpiralScouts can be found, here.

That’s all I have for now! As always, if you have community news you’d like to share, please drop me a line.

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  • Devin Hunter

    Holy wow! This is a lot of news! It will be a shame to see Macha leave the organization but I have been hearing about this issue all over the reclaiming community and I’m not even reclaiming! 

  • Leea

    it’s too bad that the problems in Reclaiming had to come to this point. Good luck to Macha in her future endeavors! 

    • Guest

      Agreed!

  • Guest

    Reading and practicing from real books, using one’s own mind and intellect, calling out on bullshit, and kicking backstabbers and those seeking pity for themselves at every meeting to the curb doesn’t minimize group intuition, their caring, and their ability to do magic. That’s been true since…

  • http://www.gedeparma.com/ Gede Parma Akheron

    As someone who has become overtly involved in the international Reclaiming community in the past few years, and as someone who is an initiate of other traditions and involved in both Interfaith and the broader Pagan communities, I personally can not attest to this ‘devolving’ Macha speaks of. In fact, it is in the broader Reclaiming community that I have witnessed the deepest authenticity, the most courageous willingness to discuss convoluted and complex topics and create actions from this place and the translation of our theologies and values into lived and embodied spirituality which is relevant and immediate. It is in Reclaiming Tradition that I have discovered a way to consciously and proactively be of service to Self, Community and Cosmos. We must remember that Reclaiming Tradition Witchcraft is unique in that it requires only two things of an individual to be Reclaiming (if at all) and these are:

    *To identify as a Reclaiming Witch (and therefore practise Reclaiming-style magic) 
    AND
    *To adhere to and celebrate the Principles of Unity (which we have just revised at Dandelion 2012 because our community has evolved to desire more explicit representation of the manifold expressions of the gender identity and history in accord with our values of inclusivity and how this reflects in our theology – if anything, our ‘theology’ just became more ‘coherent’) 

    I read M. Macha Nightmare’s declaration yesterday after having been present with many Reclaiming Witches from across the United States in Portland, Oregon, and while I honour what seems to be a definite need to express a divergence with Reclaiming, I did not see any honour in what seemed to be a denigration of Reclaiming Tradition, as if it is some monolithic organisation that is not the wild, anarchistic, autonomous, non-authoritation collective of Witches that it is, was and always will be. 

    Instead of reacting to the post, I thought I would publicly claim my Reclaiming identity and affirm my connection with the international Reclaiming community. I have posted it below: 

    I am a Reclaiming Witch because my tradition opens itself to rise to challenges in the Self, in Community and in Cosmos. We are Witches who come together to share spirit in such vital and vivid ways that I am at all times brought to my knees in holy surrender with my heart beating in my mouth, yearning to grow wings and fly free on Songs of Poetry. I am a Reclaiming Witch because of a language which co-creates new vision and daring as we dance the edge of a dangerous precipice. I am a Reclaiming Witch because I learn to love fiercely and I am opened to understanding the dynamics of Power in a World which either scorns the idea of possessing Power or exploits and cripples it, until it is only a weapon of greed, isolation and senseless destruction. I am a Reclaiming Witch because I am celebrated immediately and deeply as an embodiment of the Divine, a living expression and beautiful manifestation of God Herself and I am treasured as a Necessary and Desired Voice and Presence amongst a Chorus and Collective of Many. And so it is~

  • http://www.gedeparma.com/ Gede Parma Akheron

    As someone who has become overtly involved in the international Reclaiming community in the past few years, and as someone who is an initiate of other traditions and involved in both Interfaith and the broader Pagan communities, I personally can not attest to this ‘devolving’ Macha speaks of. In fact, it is in the broader Reclaiming community that I have witnessed the deepest authenticity, the most courageous willingness to discuss convoluted and complex topics and create actions from this place and the translation of our theologies and values into lived and embodied spirituality which is relevant and immediate. It is in Reclaiming Tradition that I have discovered a way to consciously and proactively be of service to Self, Community and Cosmos. We must remember that Reclaiming Tradition Witchcraft is unique in that it requires only two things of an individual to be Reclaiming (if at all) and these are:

    *To identify as a Reclaiming Witch (and therefore practise Reclaiming-style magic) 
    AND
    *To adhere to and celebrate the Principles of Unity (which we have just revised at Dandelion 2012 because our community has evolved to desire more explicit representation of the manifold expressions of the gender identity and history in accord with our values of inclusivity and how this reflects in our theology – if anything, our ‘theology’ just became more ‘coherent’) 

    I read M. Macha Nightmare’s declaration yesterday after having been present with many Reclaiming Witches from across the United States in Portland, Oregon, and while I honour what seems to be a definite need to express a divergence with Reclaiming, I did not see any honour in what seemed to be a denigration of Reclaiming Tradition, as if it is some monolithic organisation that is not the wild, anarchistic, autonomous, non-authoritation collective of Witches that it is, was and always will be. 

    Instead of reacting to the post, I thought I would publicly claim my Reclaiming identity and affirm my connection with the international Reclaiming community. I have posted it below: 

    I am a Reclaiming Witch because my tradition opens itself to rise to challenges in the Self, in Community and in Cosmos. We are Witches who come together to share spirit in such vital and vivid ways that I am at all times brought to my knees in holy surrender with my heart beating in my mouth, yearning to grow wings and fly free on Songs of Poetry. I am a Reclaiming Witch because of a language which co-creates new vision and daring as we dance the edge of a dangerous precipice. I am a Reclaiming Witch because I learn to love fiercely and I am opened to understanding the dynamics of Power in a World which either scorns the idea of possessing Power or exploits and cripples it, until it is only a weapon of greed, isolation and senseless destruction. I am a Reclaiming Witch because I am celebrated immediately and deeply as an embodiment of the Divine, a living expression and beautiful manifestation of God Herself and I am treasured as a Necessary and Desired Voice and Presence amongst a Chorus and Collective of Many. And so it is~

    • Guest

      It seems like there’s groups of Reclaiming that go about aimlessly snagging attention from the groups for free therapy AA style and there’s the few charging outrageous sums for beginning level courses. I’m going to guess these weren’t the direction either founder had intended.
      I thought the original plan was to learn witchcraft (in-house and not for a fortune) and combine in activism, particularly on feminist issues. I’m glad you enjoy what you do, and maybe you’ll bring the group into something. Or maybe your group is as great as you suggest. :)

  • Thelettuceman

     I want to know, exactly, what Platkin determines to be a “furtherance of the [Maetreum’s] religious mission” and appropriate amount of charity work.  Because, I don’t know, last I knew most Christian churches are only open for service three hours each day, three days a week.  Maybe.  At least over here in Columbia County they are.  Yet they have no problem keeping their tax-exempt status.

    Platkin’s dictating the terms of what religious charity is, even though he’s admitted that they’re a valid religion.  Well, now because of this precedent, I want a legal framework so I can go around and hound all the other religious buildings in my area to make sure they conform to the appropriate level of religious charity.

    I cannot stress how mad this has me.

    • T Thorn Coyle

      What I wondered are Buddhist or Christian monasteries given tax exemptions for religious purposes?

      • T Thorn Coyle

        Meant to type What I wondered:

        (typing too quickly)

        • http://blog.chasclifton.com/ Chas Clifton

           Those monasteries operate under religious rules, vows of poverty, and so on. I am guessing (correct me if I am wrong) that the Maetreum’s members were not, merely living semi-communally (house-sharing). Or at least that is how it looked to the court.

      • Angie

        Yes, they are given property tax exemptions. There is an exemption for the “parsonage” too.

        • Rev. Cathryn Platine

          For the record:  There are over a dozen parsonages in the Catskill taxing district that have been granted full exemption although they are totally residental.  There is even a picnic grounds owned by a church that is fully exempt

          Three miles up the mountain from us is a Buddhist multi-million dollar retreat that charges large fees for everything.  They are not in the Catskill taxing district but they are fully exempt.

          • Zan Fraser

            Hey all- let me just ask, once and for all (cause I suspect something may be so): I totally don’t think this makes the Catskill’s authorities “right” at all- but. Seriously: the Matreum of Cybele. Wasn’t Cybele kind of famous for Her ecstatically-inspired Male Devotees slicing off their testicles during the ardors of Ritual and Worship of Cybele?

            Is it possible that the Matreum possibly consists of Trans-Gendered Priestesses of Cybele? (I don’t know; that’s why I’m asking; but seriously: the Matreum of Cybele? Cybele being Famous for Her Male Followers slicing off their balls, in order to Become Like the Divine Goddess Cybele, arguably the Most Famous of Goddesses for Her Trans-Gendered Devotees)?

            Are we perhaps sidetracked from the True Issue here? Are we perhaps not witnessing so much an expression of antipathy towards Goddess-Worshipping Paganism- as an expression of antipathy towards Trans-Gendered Goddess-Worshipping Paganism? 

            I don’t know; that’s why I’m asking.

          • kenneth

            I think you’re WAY overthinking the issue at hand, and may not appreciate the dangers of snorting high doses of ritalin.

          • Zan Fraser

            Well, that was what male Followers of Cybele did, and I guess I’ve always been a little curious as to why the Matreum chose Cybele as their Goddess (well obviously, She’s one of the Great Mothers of course). My deepest sympathies for the Matreum and my frustration that I don’t have some $10,000 on hand to help them. An article in the New York section of the New York Times this morning, by Jim Dwyer [p. A14]: “Philanthropist Wants to Be Rid of His Last $1.5 Billion.” Charles Feeney is funneling considerable monies to charitable causes through his foundation Atlantic Philanthropies. If he has $1.5 billion, $10,000 probably seems like loose change. Perhaps an appeal to this philanthropic trust?

            Great is Cybele, and Her Fortune upon Her daughters. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/viktoria.whittaker Viktoria Whittaker

            Thank you, Zan, this is a lead we will follow up on.

          • Zan Fraser

            For the record: I live in the Gay Heart of New York City; transgender-ism (or its campier displays, Drag and what is called Gender-Fuck [where you deliberately mess with someone's gender-expectations]) is literally part of the lifestyle; the backdrop to it all (we are pioneering Transgendered Expression in Popular Culture). I practice with Transgendered Pagans; I have for two decades.

            The Expression of Transgender-ism is a fascinating element in much of Ancient World Paganism; its Expression in modern Neo-Paganism will be equally fascinating. Few expressions of Ancient World Paganism are as fascinating as those of the Great Goddess Cybele, Whose Priests became Her Priestesses.  

          • http://profiles.google.com/thorncoyle T Thorn Coyle

            Rev. Cathryn, at this point, is there anything we can do to support your cause?

          • http://www.facebook.com/viktoria.whittaker Viktoria Whittaker

            Right now, we need three things: First, we need funds desperately. Second, we need whatever energy you can send us, but most of all, Third, we NEED this to go viral. As if this was not enough of an injustice itself, the town’s attorney recently *INSULTED* the entire pagan community by saying that he didn’t expect any resistance from the pagan community. We MUST prove him wrong if we are to survive.

    • CrystalK

       Likewise.  Platkin’s reasoning is even more ridiculous than the county’s.  Why exactly do they have to do any charitable work to be considered for tax exempt status?  The Church of Christers two blocks from my home do none at all.  No siree, and don’t even ask.  They send out periodic leaflets pretty telling the neighborhood not to come and ask for food, shelter, or childcare.  Yet, they are tax exempt.

      • CrystalK

         Lots of mistakes in that comment.  “county’s” should have been “town’s”  and scratch the “pretty”.

      • kenneth

        If you think that’s wild, consider the Mormons. Depending on whose estimates you believe, that outfit rakes in up to $8 BILLION a year and owns business and other assets worth many tens of billions more. They would rank squarely in the middle of the pack among the Fortune 500 list if they were considered a business (they should be). They apparently donate less than 1 percent of their annual haul to charity work.

        http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-10/how-the-mormons-make-money 

        Moreover, the judge in this case crafted a standard for the Maestrum that no other church has ever had to meet. Under federal tax laws, churches have no minimum level of charity spending they have to meet. In fact, they have no obligation to report what they raise and spend for any reason. They have complete immunity to transparency. They are the only type of nonprofit that is allowed to conduct all of its financial existence in the dark. 

        • CrystalK

           “They have complete immunity to transparency. They are the only type of
          nonprofit that is allowed to conduct all of its financial existence in
          the dark.”  That needs to change immediately.  Religious tax reform, indeed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=645480792 Emily Jacques

    Part of me wished the story about Reclaiming didn’t just focus on an elder leaving, and didn’t say anything about the re-wording of the Priniciples of Unity to be more inclusive of all genders and of queer mysteries. That was good news in my books, and is probably a big change in the Reclaiming tradition, but I honor dissent, as there is also a strong place for dianic mysteries, or polarity mysteries, or whatever mysteries are so mystery-I-don’t-know-about-it in the Craft too. I’m following a Reclaiming path, but I’m in a community far from the hub of Reclaiming, and I’m not an activist, so don’t know all the politics and histories involved and that’s OK. From what I’ve observed, it seems like all Pagan traditions have their shadow and light sides, and for every well-organized event, there is another that is not excuted well. I’m sorry to see elders go, but it’s also good for people to move on to what is best for them and from reading Macha’s blog, it sounds like she is making the change with her own integrity and sticking to her priniciples. I wish her all the best in the future.

    • http://www.wildhunt.org/blog/ Jason Pitzl-Waters

      Part of the problem with covering these issues is that oftentimes an organization’s internal process isn’t transparent to outsiders, making it hard to delve deeper into the changes being made. I’m happy to spotlight anyone from Reclaiming who has been a part of this process and would like to discuss the changes being made to the Principles of Unity.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=645480792 Emily Jacques

        Thanks Jason! I had a feeling that since it’s a small tradition, that something like that had happened, so that’s why I dipped my toes in the commenting pool. I wasn’t at Dandelion, but spoke briefly to someone who did, and I read through the new wording last night. Hopefully someone who was there will speak to the event itself. Here is a link to the Dandelion website: http://dandeliongathering.org/

        • http://www.wildhunt.org/blog/ Jason Pitzl-Waters

          I’m in contact with someone in Reclaiming now, and he is writing a guest editorial for The Wild Hunt, to be published soon!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=645480792 Emily Jacques

            Thanks so much! I really appreciate the great Pagan reporting on here. Keep up the great work!

        • http://www.facebook.com/MachaIsAline Aline O’Brien

          I don’t think it’s so small, Emily. Reclaiming groups are found around the U.S. and Canada, and also in England, Scotland, Germany, Spain, Italy, Australia, Israel, and probably some other places. How similar they are I have no idea. I do know, however, from what folks have told me around the U.S. over the past 30+ years, what I can see as similarities among them.

      • kenneth

        Sometimes an organization’s internal process isn’t even transparent to well placed insiders! 

  • Anon

    I am disappointed that this news roundup does mention that Macha’s decision to leave the tradition comes immediately after the Reclaiming tradition revised its Principle of Unity to be more overtly inclusive of transgender and genderqueer folk, and also to acknowledge that many Reclaimers see the divine as genderqueer as well.  From what I can see, this is also big news in paganism. 

    I feel that this has been presented poorly here.  For example,  this piece states that Macha “is not the only prominent Reclaiming Witch to express discomfort with the tradition as it exists today,” and then references Ann Hill.  It could also have read, “Following in the footsteps of Z Budapest, another pagan elder says ‘no’ to trans inclusion.”  Neither of these is  neutral. 
    Of course, it is too early to know if trans inclusion is the reason she has left, as she has not publicly stated her specific reasons. I look forward to reading Macha’s blog about what caused her to leave the tradition, which she has said she will deliver.  I personally suspect it is more than just trans inclusivity that is behind her decision.

    • http://www.wildhunt.org/blog/ Jason Pitzl-Waters

      I’ve not known Macha to be against trans inclusion, nor has she stated such, and I’m working on having a Reclaiming representative explain the POU process and changes, since that conversation has not been happening in public.

      • http://www.facebook.com/MachaIsAline Aline O’Brien

        I am not and have never been agains trans inclusion. ~ Macha

        • Guest

          I think whatever hir next step may be, it’ll still be with wisdom and heart.  Blessings on hir path

    • http://www.wildhunt.org/blog/ Jason Pitzl-Waters

      I would also like to point out that I’m MORE than willing to give equal time to Reclaiming on this. Macha got the coverage and shaped the narrative because she sent out a press release to all the Pagan media she knows (which if you know Macha is a lot). Reclaiming, so far as I can tell, has only made their changes public in two pictures on Facebook yesterday, with no context for those not in the Reclaiming loop. 

    • Baruch Dreamstalker

      Since we have no indication that trans inclusion is Macha’s animating issue, it is borderline slander to suggest it — especially in a post with the screen name “Anon.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=645480792 Emily Jacques

      I don’t think the two stories are necessarily connected — for me, it was that there were two stories about Reclaiming not one: one story about an elder leaving a tradition, and another story about an organizational change in a tradition. I think there is more to Reclaiming than the story of “elder leaves, tradition in trouble”. People who found organizations have lots of reasons for leaving it — especially when the organization grows and changes and the founder grows and changes and then sometimes the fit just doesn’t seem right anymore. And that’s OK to step back and say “this isn’t my thing anymore and I’m moving on”. 

    • Henry

      she did publicly state her reasons:
      “The incompatibilities between Reclaiming and me also trace to loose, undefined standards; lack of accountability; uncivil personal conduct and rude, disrespectful behavior without any restraint or consequences; lack of coherent theology; lack of intellectual rigor; and carelessness in ritual and other aspects of religious practice.”

      • Robert Mathiesen

        This seems pretty clear and explicit to me.  If I remember correctly, both Macha/Aline and Anne Hill have been talking about precisely these problems within Reclaiming for many years now.  They are common enough problems and they are highly toxic.  Sometimes they can’t be fixed, because they are not problems with a few specific people or a few specific incidents, and because
        many of the leaders and many of their followers have come to prefer the status quo.  Then the best one can do is bear one’s witness as one walks away.

  • Lēoht Sceadusawol

    Re Macha’s withdrawing from a tradition she co-founded. If someone creates a tradition and then sees it change according to the whims and desires of others, can you be surprised if they feel disconnected from it?

    If I were to create my own system (give it time), I would be extremely pissed if other people came along and changed it into their system. If it is not for you, create your own, don’t just steal mine. I imagine that a lot of people would feel similar.

  • Malaz

    Slightly off topic: bloody hilarious nonetheless:
     http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-pagan-dreading-big-family-vernal-equinox-cele,2165/

  • WhiteBirch

    Argh, it’s so frustrating to see the Matreum of Cybele is still fighting this fight against ridiculous double standards. Good luck to them, and hang in there. Not backing down under pressure is the only thing that will ever fix the problem, but the practicalities of it…. Not pleasant. I hope they get the support they need to keep fighting. 

  • Jay

    Obviously convents and monastaries are just a convient excuse for so-called “nuns” and “monks” to freeload as part of an “affordable cooperative housing” venture.  What an utter load of CRAP.  New York Supreme Court, I expected better from you.