Unleash the Hounds! (Link Roundup)

Jason Pitzl-Waters —  September 6, 2011 — 24 Comments

There are lots of articles and essays of interest to modern Pagans out there, sometimes more than I can write about in-depth in any given week. So The Wild Hunt must unleash the hounds in order to round them all up.

That’s it for now! Feel free to discuss any of these links in the comments, some of these I may expand into longer posts as needed.

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  • Lori F – MN

    Campaign Theology – very nice article link. That’s one worth passing around. Thanks for the link Jason

    • Baruch Dreamstalker

      I agree. It’s a positive sign that mainstream media are paying attention to the role of religion in this race.

      • http://www.patheos.com Star Foster

        There are still people walking around wondering why Obama hasn’t released his birth certificate and that he’s a Muslim. I know there has been silliness and religious ignorance in other political eras, but I can’t help feeling this one takes the cake. Could JFK even get elected today?

        • Baruch Dreamstalker

          He certainly couldn’t get away with that line in his famous speech on religion, that he would never expect a Catholic prelate to tell a Catholic elected official how to act in office. Catholic bishops now do that all the time with the threat of excommunication.

        • Anonymous

          The birth certificate is all but irrelevant. Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and therefore he is ineligible to be our POTUS. Likewise, Marco Rubio is ineligible as his parents weren’t citizens when he was born. If he is a true patriot and supporter of the Constitution, he will immediately call a press conference and announce that he is not a ‘natural born citizen’ because his parents were not U.S. citizens and that he cannot accept any invitation to join a presidential ticket. For more eligibility info, see: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/minor-v-happersett-is-binding-precedent-as-to-the-constitutional-definition-of-a-natural-born-citizen/.

          Help me make that happen. Go to http://rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contact Tell Rubio that you expect him to do the right thing so that we can both fix the constitutional crisis we currently face and forever prevent another from occurring. This problem should have been resolved following Chester A. Arthur’s administration when it was discovered that his father was not a U.S. citizen when Chester was born – but it wasn’t. Let’s finally put this question to rest.

          If Rubio will stand tall and make that announcement, it would immediately shine a spotlight on Barry’s Ineligibility and force the SCOTUS/Congress to act. Help me make that happen! It will only take a couple minutes – please do it now!

          • Anonymous

            you do realize that the citizenship of the parents is immaterial, correct?

            natural born citizen: A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government. – Black’s Law Dictionary.

            gtfo, troll.

          • Anonymous

            you do realize that the citizenship of the parents is immaterial, correct?

            natural born citizen: A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government. – Black’s Law Dictionary.

            gtfo, troll.

          • Anonymous

            Ya know, I have to ask this whenever this issue comes up. If he’s not a “natural-born citizen”, what exactly would it matter at this point? What’s the payoff? Is he going to have a press conference tomorrow and announce that he’s turning us all muslim and there’s nothing we can do about it? This is all played like it’s some nefarious supervillain scheme but nobody can ever seem to explain what the supposedly dire consequences for the United States actually are. But then again, these seem to be the same people who keep claiming Obama’s some kind of marxist socialist radical while ignoring the fact that the only wealth redistribution going on is from the rest of us to those who are all ready wealthy.

          • http://www.StevenAbell.com Steven T Abell

            The payoff is that the Constitution is supposed to matter, period. And I have no doubt that it matters a whole lot to you, when there’s something going on that seems important to you. Other times, probably not so much. Or not at all. But that’s not the way it’s supposed to work.

            During Bush 2, lots of people were up in arms about his abuse of executive orders. They don’t seem to be worried about Obama’s abuse of executive orders. So I guess that, if he’s your guy, it doesn’t matter what he does. But that’s not the way it’s supposed to work.

            The real trick in a republic is that civic morality has to work all the time, whether it’s your guy in office, or somebody else.

          • Baruch Dreamstalker

            “The real trick in a republic is that civic morality has to work all the time, whether it’s your guy in office, or somebody else.”

            That’s the ideal. The reality is that parties keep each other’s politicians in their sights.

          • Anonymous

            What’s important to me is that Obama is dragging us into more armed conflicts overseas, making the extrajudicial execution of “terrorist suspects” legal and handing billions of dollars over to people who are essentially threatening to torch our economy to the ground if he doesn’t, off the top of my head. You know, actual problems. Not this fantasist bullshite about a secret conspiracy to elect a non-citizen as president. This nonsense deflects from what Obama is actually doing in office and only serves to fuel the paranoid delusions of white nativists who would be much happier if it was a black man sitting in the Oval Office doing all the things I mentioned at the beginning of this post. It’s not “civic morality” that keeps Birthers going, it’s bigotry.

            Oh yeah, I should probably mention that Obama’s not “my guy”, in case you didn’t pick that up.

          • Baruch Dreamstalker

            Ruka, the armed conficts our military is engaged in on the ground are heritages of George W Bush. We don’t have boots on the ground in the Libyan conflict, which for good or ill is at Obama’s door.

            Osama bin Ladin was not “executed,” he was killed in warfare, in whose conduct people regularly get killed without benefit of judiciary.

            Clearly Obama is not your guy but he deserves accurate representation.

          • Anonymous

            Baruch, I was actually speaking of this:

            http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/world/middleeast/07yemen.html?_r=1

            I don’t have much of a problem with an armed, actively aggressive person being killed during a combat operation. I do have a problem with what is essentially making assassination government policy.

            And yes, you are correct that the wars we are in are Bush’s legacy. But if Obama is going to not only continue them but keep expanding their scope, that’s on him.

          • Baruch Dreamstalker

            Ruka, seeing that 9/11 hardened me into accepting the war in Afghanistan and the assassination of bin Ladin, the American citizenship of this terrorist doesn’t faze me. Thank you for the link.

        • kenneth

          The “birther” phenomenon is dirt simple. Theses are folks who can’t get their minds around the fact that a negro (and especially a “liberal”) one was elected president. In their minds, it simply cannot have happened by any legitimate means in a country favored by their god.

          These are the same people, by and large, who frantically bought every gun and box of ammo they could lay their hands on in the first months after the 2008 election. For most of the following year, you couldn’t buy certain calibers of ammo at any price. People who had no prior interest in shooting sports or self defense went on a mad buying spree. Obama hadn’t said word one about gun control, but it was just the sort of thing a foreign Marxist-Muslim would do, by their reckoning. The birther thing also persist because it plays by the rules of conspiracy theory, where the rules of evidence are topsy-turvy. Anything submitted in the way of birth evidence becomes part of the conspiracy and anything not found becomes ironclad evidence of the plot.

          • Anonymous

            “These are the same people, by and large, who frantically bought every gun and box of ammo they could lay their hands on in the first months after the 2008 election. For most of the following year, you couldn’t buy certain calibers of ammo at any price. People who had no prior interest in shooting sports or self defense went on a mad buying spree. Obama hadn’t said word one about gun control, but it was just the sort of thing a foreign Marxist-Muslim would do, by their reckoning. ”

            Oh, just wait until the next election, especially if he somehow miraculously gets into office for a second term. They’re convinced that that’s when he’ll put his sooper-secret marxist islamofascist agenda into effect. Me, I’m planning on doing all of my buying BEFORE then so I don’t have to deal with another artificial price spike caused by these panicky idiots.

          • anon

            “They’re convinced that that’s when he’ll put his sooper-secret marxist islamofascist agenda into effect. ”

            you forgot the antichrist agenda…apparently, he is also the antichrist…

  • http://egregores.wordpress.com Apuleius Platonicus

    The article on “banning black magic in India” actually begins by specifically citing “chanting to cure snake bites” as one of the forms of “black magic” they wish to ban!

    In other words, this is a campaign to outlaw the practice of magic, period, including beneficial magic.

    The author of the legislation freely admits that his aim is to criminalize anything that he views as “superstition”.

    • Baruch Dreamstalker

      The title of the bill includes other targets than black magic, “evil practices” for one.

      The two scare-story examples could be prosecuted without any new law about magic. Abducting and killing children, or conspiring to do so, is illegal already. If they want to pass an aggravating rider, “for ritual purposes,” to add jail time, that’s something else.

      The whole list of offenses seems to be premised on the idea that all magic is fraud, so those that seem harmful under that assumption should (so the implicit logic goes) be treated as crimes. This basic attitude is, if I understand Hinduism properly, factually a slap at some objectively harmless common practices, even though politicians claim it isn’t because the word “religion” is never used. If the rural faithful in India are anything like the American counterpart, the politicos won’t get away with it.

      It seems the sponsors of the bill will win all their arguments with those who follow the rules of debate — rationalists who think it doesn’t go far enough, spiritualists who think it goes too far — and still lose in the court of public opinion. At least we’re not the only country that wastes legislative time with the likes of this.

      Hey, Jason if you let Apuleius insert add-ons like the above, it doesn’t get distributed by Disqus.

  • http://egregores.wordpress.com Apuleius Platonicus

    Here’s a little more on the topic of “banning black magic in India”.

    The law in question was originally proposed in 2005 under the title: “Maharashtra Eradication of Black Magic, Evil and Aghori Practices Bill”. It was still being referred to by that title as recently as April of this year (link).

    The word “Aghori” appears nineteen times in the 2005 version of the bill. “Aghori” is a Hindu word that refers to (very broadly speaking) so-called “Left Hand Tantra”. Hugh Urban (of Ohio State University) has observed that certain forms of Tantra are prevalent among less-educated, lower class Indians. Urban refers to this is as “what we might call low-brow, folk, or vernacular Tantra”, and he states that this form of Tantra is “arguably far more prevalent” than “elite” forms of Tantra. Urban also points out that books on “pop-Tantric magic” are very popular in India. [see his “Tantra: Sex, Secrecy, Politics and Power”, especially p. 275]

    An even earlier “anti-superstition” law was proposed in Maharashtra in 2003 (reference). One source (link) claims that the 2003 law was “the first bill of its kind ever to be tabled anywhere across the country”, but another article, but in fact there was an even earlier attempt in 1995 (source).

    Among those strongly opposing the bill is a religious group whose devotees often engage in long pilgrimages while barefoot. The law explicitly outlaws any religious activity that results in physical harm, so such pilgrimages would become criminal acts.

  • http://www.livejournal.com/users/nervy_girl ProfessorZed

    Psst…the Michigan Pagan Pride link is actually to my Ontario event — we can see Michigan from our event site, but we’re definitely Canadian! :D Thanks for the link, at any rate!

    • Oberon Osiris

      Michigan-Detroit based Oberon, waves across the river to ProfessorZed – Hope your event is splendid!

  • Baruch Dreamstalker

    The Mark Chaves article about the religious “nones” is interesting sociology but I can’t tell whether they’d be interested in us.