Quick Note: Public Prayers in Brunswick

Jason Pitzl-Waters —  April 15, 2010 — 23 Comments

Indulge me, if you will, to talk a bit about Brunswick, North Carolina. You see, Brunswick and this blog have something of a history. Way back in 2006, the Brunswick County Board of Education in North Carolina was on track to approve a controversial and vaguely-worded policy that would allow for the distribution of religious materials on school grounds. Legal threats didn’t seem to faze them until Llewellyn Worldwide offered to distribute free books on Wicca and Paganism to school children. Faster than you could say “Galloping Gideons”, the Brunswick board backed down from their plan, and someone fortuitously caught that delicious moment in a photo.

Since then, the Brunswick board would pop up occasionally to threaten a ban on Harry Potter, or attempt to inject Creationism into the curriculum, and I’d get to run that awesome photo again. Good times. So imagine my reaction when I learn that the Brunswick County Commissioners are considering ending public invocations due to fear that they might have to include Witches in the mix.

Brunswick County’s commissioners could be dropping their traditional prayer before public meetings. The consideration of changing from an opening invocation to a moment of silence comes after a StarNews report on a late-night board meeting in which commissioners vehemently opposed Commissioner Charles Warren’s request to allow outside clergy to pray before the board meetings. Traditionally the commissioners have given the invocation. Commissioner Phil Norris, who is also a pastor, said Wednesday that, after much thought on the issue, he now thinks the board should hold a moment of silence instead of the prayer. “I think, after thinking about this for some time, the way I see the Constitution it provides all of us with freedom of religion or freedom to not have any religion,” he said. Norris’ original reaction to Warren’s request was: “If we do that, do we have to invite witches?

If you think that’s something, take a gander at the actual transcript!

Commissioner Charles Warren: Mr. Chairman, I’m basically, I’m still trying to keep the community involved in our board meetings and things of this nature. So I’m recommending that we invite different clergies, priests, rabbis throughout the community to come in and do our invocation of services.

Commissioner Phil Norris: If we do that do we have to invite witches and uh…

Commissioner Marty Cooke: My godson has a witch who’s his mother in law…

County Attorney Huey Marshall: We’ve got the largest monestary of Buddhists between DC and Atlanta

Sue: Buddhists?

It gets even better after that, with one commissioner threatening to walk out if a Buddhist is allowed to do an opening prayer, and another more than willing to waste tax-dollars on a lengthy lawsuit over the matter. It remains to be seen what the Brunswick County Commissioners will end up actually doing, but with a recent court room loss for sectarian opening prayers in North Carolina, they may have to go silent if they don’t want to endure the Buddhists and Witches (and a lengthy court battle).  This not only shows what some religiously conservative-dominated local governments truly feel about religious diversity, but also shows the unintended power modern Pagans hold in places like Brunswick simply by existing.

Jason Pitzl-Waters

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JarredH Jarred Harris

    You would think they would have learned their lesson by now….

  • Lori F- MN

    Is that a skit from SNL?

    • http://www.facebook.com/EdAHubbard Ed Hubbard

      Thank You for this, and thank you, Llewellyn for making the offer. It changed the whole tenor.

    • Shadowhawk

      Local governments before each meeting should be required to read the Second Amendment, paying special attention to the establishment clause.. But thats just my opinion

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/JarredH Jarred Harris

        You mean the First Amendment.

        But yes, I'm inclined to agree with you.

      • Perquisitor Omnia

        Yeah, lets! I'll get me white robes and itty-bitty scythe!

        • patti talbot-turner

          wonderful,goddess loves us to laugh

      • Karlsefni

        Aye. There has got to be audio of this somewhere.

        • http://www.facebook.com/Brianna.SacredPsychic Brianna Sasra Sidhe-Wolf

          Oh No not the Buddhists…..

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Riverbend Riverbend

      I'm still trying to figure out why they want to sue the Buddhists….oh, never mind, there's a colon there. :)

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ananta_of_Maine Ananta_of_Maine

      Indeed, the idea of "Out of the mouths of bigots …" will never be the basis for good education.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000006502141 Jenna Cahill

    Nothing like "freedom of religion as long as it's mine" Sheesh.

    • http://www.facebook.com/anphivena Darlene Owens

      What a bubble they live in, geez..

  • Amy

    I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that well-thought out and well spoken comments that disagreed with the author were not permitted here. Thank you for deleting my comment without notice or reason. I won’t make the mistake of coming here again, you obviously aren’t the kind of people I want to associate with.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Teaa Tea

      huh?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/JarredH Jarred Harris

        Yeah, I'll second that "huh"?

  • http://themagicalmundane.blogspot.com Jessica

    Oh wow. Now that is some entertainment. LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1008131810 Chelsea Rose

    That picture is priceless. Ahahaahahahaha. Thanks for the laugh this morning!

  • Karlsefni

    Heey now Dixie isn't all Christers. Birmingham has the largest concentration of pagans in Alabama and Mississippi combined!

  • Perquisitor Omnia

    Hey don't dis Dixie! At least where I live in Dixie the Christians are all tame and their hot-botton issue is the Baptists all trying to make the county dry.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Vermillion Vermillion

    I hope it's not all of Dixie, I would hate to lose Sweet Tea.

  • harmonyfb

    Sue: Buddhists?

    ::sporfles:: I can only imagine the level of pearl-clutching horror.

  • Baruch Dreamstalker

    Eventually the map will sort out into Jesusland (most likely aka Dixie), where there will be moments of silence, and The Rest of the Country, where Buddhists and Wiccans will have their turn.